entering posted buildings
This is a discussion on entering posted buildings within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I do not have my liscense to carry yet, class is in october. But I was wondering what you folks do when you need to ...
August 22nd, 2007 03:35 PM
entering posted buildings
I do not have my liscense to carry yet, class is in october. But I was wondering what you folks do when you need to enter a building that is not a school or gov't building and it is posted "no weapons"?
I've become quite aware of the signs on doors of businesses since my decision to go CCW. I know that most of you folks will not do business in a place where guns are not allowed.
Just curious how many and how often folks just walk on in without disarming.
For example, I do not plan to open carry...but I had to drop off my daughter's library book this morning. They have a legal sign banning firearms. I was in there a total of 10 minutes. Would you disarm?
The only grocery store in town is posted with improper sign banning weapons. If you only need a few items would you disarm or just walk right on by the sign?
One more question...
Our county fairgrounds is posted as well and listed on several sites as so. Can they legally post the ground I walk on or just the buildings?
The beauty with the conceal is just that...no one needs to know.
Thanks for your time.
August 22nd, 2007 03:46 PM
Do not disarm, period. As you alluded to--concealed means concealed, both from view and knowledge.
(disclaimer: Nothing in this post should be construed as an encouragement to break or disregard federal or state law.)
August 22nd, 2007 03:49 PM
I ignore the signs on private buildings.
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August 22nd, 2007 03:53 PM
August 22nd, 2007 03:59 PM
If it's posted, I don't go in or disarm before hand.
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August 22nd, 2007 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Andy W.
August 22nd, 2007 04:03 PM
I follow the laws of the state. Texas happens to be very specific and have specific penalties for offenses of this nature.
Ohio, does specifically address this issue in thier code. I suggest that you read what the laws of Ohio are on this issue, and make yourself very familiar with all the laws of you state regarding concealed carry.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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August 22nd, 2007 04:05 PM
Beautiful thing about Oregon..Signs don't mean JACK... However if you violate the sign and they ask you to leave then do it or you can be charged with criminal tresspass....
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August 22nd, 2007 04:15 PM
just take down the sign. might take years for them to realize it is gone.
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August 22nd, 2007 04:22 PM
Hmmmm, what sign you talkin' about officer? LOL!
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August 22nd, 2007 04:25 PM
Unless the sign is legal, ignore it.
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August 22nd, 2007 04:36 PM
I didn't know this. Can you give me a reference on this? Seems like a good way to get in trouble if you can't back it up...
Originally Posted by Gunner69
August 22nd, 2007 04:42 PM
Check your state laws. In many states, it is a crime, often a felony to violate legally posted signs. In my state a simple "No Firearms" (red cirle over gun) is posted by a business owner and shows his desire that no one carry on his property. He has the right to do that. If you choose to disobey you are violating his rights. Generally though all they can do is ask you to leave, if you refuse then you are trespassing.
Know the law. I will not violate any state or federal law (such as carrying at a government office or a school), but I will not risk my safety or that of my family to observe some administrative rule.
If someone had been carrying at Va Tech, and had stopped the bad guy early in his spree, what would the result have been? What DA would have prosecuted?
August 22nd, 2007 05:17 PM
If the sign is legally posted in accordance with the law I disarm or do not go in. Now notice I said "legally posted in accordance with the law". If it is not I ignore it and many are not posted properly according to MN law. If spotted and asked to leave I take my money elsewhere and let them know I won't be back until the sign comes down.
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August 22nd, 2007 05:17 PM
i do not encourage anyone to break the law. if it is posted I don't do business there. if it isn't a legal posted sign..(ie not the approved state sign)...I do ignore, as all they can do is ask you to leave.
CCW license holders need to live up to a higher lifestyle and lead by example...these laws will change and gun free zones will go away...hopefully
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