THE CCW'ers "STEROTYPE" ??

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    +1 Chris
    I stayed away as I consider myself far from racist, however I am not one that is well spoken or one who has great grammatical skills.
    I sincerely beleive that any inferred racial slurs on the forum were unintended. Our Moderators and Members often know each other pretty well and can understand our different ways of expressing ourselves and neither group would allow prejudice on account of race or any other legal or legitimate beliefs.

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    Ok Folks
    I for one am tired of hearing about the poor down trodden folks that can not get a job because they failed to go to school and make the correct choices in life. They had the same chance I did quite whinning. As for crime I treat every one the same black, white, orange or what every if you harm me or mine you can expect to pay the price. Accept it and get over it. I did not tell you to make babies at 12-13 years of age and to lay out of school.
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    IMO, this is either ignorance of the law and it's purposes or yet another way to spread fear and go back to the "need" for politicians to protect us. Heaven forbid that "the people" have the means to protect themselves. CCWers by and large are the most law-abiding people around and not out looking for someone to shoot. And giving someone the benefit of the doubt when someone else breaks into their home doesn't sound that wild to me. (After all, if that person hadn't broken into your house s/he wouldn't have been in trouble.) Again, to me it's about control and not violence or racisim.
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    Welcome Bama1911

    Glad to see you here.
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    Just a side note, its been a year since this news story and I haven't seen CNN running a story yet about blood running in the streets because of the new law.
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    Far from being a racist...I believe that all intruders and home invaders should be treated fairly and equally.

    If I wake up in the middle of the night & find Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson snooping around in my bedroom - they are getting EXACTLY equal treatment as what Michael Moore would be getting if HE invaded my home.
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    The thing that our local (Memphis TN) news reports most often involves black on black crime. And yet the black leaders want to disarm the rest of the world also.

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    Welcome Bama1911.

    I wish there were more people like you who see life as an opportunity to succeed rather than using the color of their skin (or where they were born, or how much money their parents had etc etc) as an excuse for not bothering.

    Personally I don't care about the color of someone's skin, I just tend to categorize people in two groups: those that want to make something out of their life and those that don't.

    Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (and Pat Robertson etc) succeed by manipulating the fears of the lazy people, giving them excuses for their own failings.

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    Bama, 'Hello' from North Texas. Welcome to the forum.
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    Glad that this story/thread is still hanging on. I feel that it is important to ALL of us.

    I have not heard or read of one instance where the passing of the "castle doctrin,stand your ground" law has unnecessarly taken the life of anyone. Anyone meaning black or white.

    No "blood in the streets" or "gunfights at the OK corral".

    The good shoots are just that, good shoots. If the BG's in Florida are found in a white mans house in the middle of the night,or a black mans house in the middle of the night both men can protect their own lives and the lives of their family. Self protection is surely color blind. We ALL have that right.

    Looks to me like the new law is working. ---------

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    I'm not a racist. I'm equal opportunity i hate everyone.


    That said i had to look out the window nope no streets full of blood.

    As Qk said everyone will be treated the same if there in my house attacking me a diet of 230 grain Hp will be given to all takers no matter color

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    I've avoided posting before this because I didn't want my comments to be considered racist. I'm not. Any comments that sound racist are purely a matter of poor semantics on my part. That said...

    I cannot see how this issue could be racist at all. It seems to me that this would be a benefit to a community where the leaders claim a higher percentage of their people are prosecuted and incarcerated for crimes than are people of other races. How can a blanket policy of "self defense is legal" be racist?

    Perhaps I am out of touch with big city politics and the ACLU, but I think I prefer it that way if their argument to "you can defend yourself" legislation is that "it's racist".
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    BAMA, a big WAR EAGLE welcome. Glad to see you on this forum.
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    I'm NOT racist, but I do discriminate...........

    I don't abide: thieves, muggers, robbers, rapists, murderers...etc....
    to quote John Wayne in 'Big Jake'....."I don't care what color they are..."

    As for minorities, I think they harm their cause by some of their leadership's antics. Look at Chas. Rangell & Jesse Jackson pushing for 'slave reparations'.....I will even agree with them up to one point.....Find me ONE LIVING person who used to be a slave before emancipation & I'll happily pay him/her reparations.(odds are pretty slim, since slavery was abolished 140 years ago!)

    I also think hyphened-Americans aren't. You are either American or not. No Mexican-Americans, no Hispanic- Americans, no Asian-Americans, no African-Americans, No European-Americans...etc...All hyphens do is divide groups. I think, like TR that they are 'weasel words'.

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    "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

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    good discussion here, just found it since I'm pretty new to the board
    my apologies in advance since this is a soapbox topic of mine.....

    Bama, I think the community comment by fortyfive was meant (at least the way I interpret it) to say the community = people that commit these crimes and the people that protest when these same criminals are caught/tried/in prison/shot by victims will no longer benefit from breakin into homes. The original post probably could have been written a litter more clearly but we're on a forum.
    And if anyone on this forum is racist......
    ...shame on you
    I've felt for a long time that the leaders of most of the minority support groups are total crooks. They love to perpetuate the poor pitiful us speech and take in a whole lot of money to help pay for their organizations instead of working to actually improve the lives of the people they are supposed to be helping.
    I dropped out of college since I was burned out and didn't want to continue the degree I was pursuing. What did I do? I got a minimum wage job, worked my butt off at it, and moved up within the company. Later I went back to college (paid for 100% out of my own pocket) and now I have a decent paying job and career.
    I was raised to respect everyone, no matter what their skin color. I was also raised to respect hard work and dedication. I totally despise someone that wants to mooch off the government instead of getting their lazy butt a job (getting laid off and out of work temporarily doesn't count here). I despise even worse the scumbags that prey upon innocent people or wish to vandalize or steal things that innocent people have worked hard to get.
    That being said, I too will be an equal opportunity spoiler...230gr.45, 00 12ga, and/or 7.62x39

    oh, I had to edit....Texas hasn't had the need to pass a castle doctrine law....its already been that way in our penal code since the 1800's...and we don't have mass shootings based upon false claims of self defense
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