Guns on Campus--CNN
This is a discussion on Guns on Campus--CNN within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Harold Fastwaker
To protect ones own and risk expulsion or become a sheep. That is the big question for us students.
August 27th, 2007 06:58 PM
How the times have changed....~sigh~
It was common practice for members of Army ROTC at the University of Alabama (Tuscaloosa) during the late 1970's to get their Alabama CCW permit ($5 from the local sheriff background check on the spot via "eyeball") and carry on campus and in class. No Big Deal. Never any problems. Not a single one. Now the University has gone so liberal I understand they're trying to kick the army off campus. Back in my day, Bama had the biggest noncompulsory ROTC program in the south. Over 3,000 cadets and commissioned over 150 each year. So sad.
Originally Posted by Harold Fastwaker
Former Army Infantry Captain; 25 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; NRA Endowment Life; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.
August 27th, 2007 07:06 PM
I am a retired college administrator and you just have to understand that in colleges and universities the general attitude of those in control is well exemplified by the administrator who says, "what we have been doing is right" and that's why we will continue. Where reason and thinking is supposed to be the watchword, nothing could be further from the that. Just liberal thinking and raw emotion.
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August 27th, 2007 07:55 PM
August 27th, 2007 08:18 PM
That would be an interesting question to ask my lawyer (off the clock). I suppose the argument would only need to be made IF one was caught on campus. If a gun was used in defending against a nutcase i.e the Amish school, It'd be interesting to see the reaction if the defender was charged. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need to expose the gun.
Originally Posted by Skuggi
August 27th, 2007 11:04 PM
We Texans need to push for more changes in our laws, including the ability for CHLs to carry in schools and colleges/universities. It really sux that my wife has to keep her glock locked up in the car when she goes to class.
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If loose gun laws are good for criminals why do criminals support gun control?
August 27th, 2007 11:10 PM
Same goes for MO. I hate that I have to leave my firearm in my car when I go inside a building at school. I did have an oops moment the other day when I was out running errands and stopped by the campus bookstore to pick something up. Ooops....oh well.
Originally Posted by 64zebra
I'd almost move to Utah just for that reason.
A violent crime happens every 23.1 seconds..... something to think about.
August 28th, 2007 01:49 AM
That would be the only defense against the charges. It does have a long line of appeal processes if one judge just was against it. There would also probably be a huge media bias in your favor, you just saved x amount of children's lives. Also once again if it was something like the VT shooting here, there would be no charges but you may get kicked out of school for saving x amount of lives.
Originally Posted by LastManOut
Oh yea I did bring up the example of defense during a high school football game if necessary to my lawyer, that's where I got the info about the cases being thrown out by the Magisterial Offices and the DA offices.
August 28th, 2007 07:39 AM
Murderers will either be found out, or flushed out. No two ways about it. But, that's a good thing, 'cause such felons are there anyway and are almost certainly armed to the teeth in complete disregard to those pretty little signs.
... people carrying on campus would only lead to more problems.
But that's hardly the only result. More "mines in the minefield" results in previously gun-free place becoming much riskier for felons, instead of the free-fire zone for criminals such places are today. Someone who was previously denied the ability to defend him/herself can now have an option with some likelihood of being effective when the chips are down. Hard to see that as anything but good.
Nice little video clip. It's good to see these subjects getting more play, in mainstream media. Not much, certainly, but every little bit can help. It's going to take an entire generation to change the mindset. Every little bit helps.
August 28th, 2007 09:26 AM
Not a bad interview. The former Marine was well spoken and made his points well. Like others I found the administrator's comments to be stupid. "I think it's best to continue what we've been doing." Well, what you've been doing has allowed the VT shootings, Columbine, etc. Those schools were guns are allowed (even in the parking lot) have not had the shooting incidents because they have been stopped. Nut job.
The young lady would be interesting to talk to in a non-challenging manner. Well, at least a non-rude manner. See what she is basing her opinion on.
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