HiCap Semi - dry fire weight

HiCap Semi - dry fire weight

This is a discussion on HiCap Semi - dry fire weight within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Out of curiosity I weighed the SIG and also the ammo - 15 round mag +1. Got to thinking of the quite significant discrepancy in ...

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    HiCap Semi - dry fire weight

    Out of curiosity I weighed the SIG and also the ammo - 15 round mag +1. Got to thinking of the quite significant discrepancy in weights - loaded and unloaded and the effect if any on dry fire.

    The gun weighs in empty at around 2 lb 6 ounces. The full mag +1 is just a tad over 7 ounces!! This makes one heck of a difference to the ''feel'' on draw and dry fire. My dummy rounds weigh very little so not much help.

    Anyone else aware of this and any effects? I have wondered whether to ''sacrifice'' one of my 10 rounders and stuff some lead in it - to better simulate the loaded weight.

    Of course, instance IDPA - we do go from heavier to lighter while shooting but - I cannot help wondering how different the ''pointing hold'' might be in dry fire practice from the 15+1 weight.

    Thoughts??
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    what dummy rounds are you using i use some 230 grain bullets loaded in cases with no primers and marked so i know there duds and use snap cap in the chamber works for 45 or anyother caliber

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    If you really want to be precise, making up a training mag that weighs the same as a loaded mag would probably be a good thing. A while back I bought a "dummy" mag for my 1911 that is weighted to simulate a full mag. I never use it.

    When you consider that people have been known to lift extraordinary weights under emergency conditions, it would be my guess that the difference between the perceived weight of the pistol under practice conditions and the perceived weight during a high stress situation would be a greater difference than the perceived difference between a full gun and an empty one. [The preceding may be the longest sentence I have ever written!] Does that make sense?

    I firmly believe in "train the way you fight..." but I think in this case it isn't a big deal since the adrenaline dump/alarm reaction will change a lot of your tactile perceptions anyway.

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    This isn't what P95 is asking, but I'll add it anyway.

    When I first got the P89, I only had factory 10 round magazines. The gun does not feel right with these magazines in it at all.

    I wound up purchasing 17 round Mec Gar magazines and the extra little bit of weight makes a huge difference. I've been using the Mec Gars exclusively for some time now and have never experienced a problem with them.

    The more I thought about it, the more I realized that the original design for the P series called for 15 round capacity magazines like the P85 used. The 10 rounders were a product of the AWB, and of course Ruger wasn't going to just throw their P series out the window.

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    Bud - indeed - that could be a good way to go, making up some lead-head dummies (I just have those plastic dealies) - probably the best way to go - making sure I spray them bright orange or similar!!!! No holes needed in office!

    Maybe too I'll try a weighted dummy mag. True enough - in a crisis I doubt the extra weight any problem at all - I have tho just been considering what the weight differential might be doing to my ''natural point'' after clearing the leather.

    I shall experiment!
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    I don't think it has made a material difference in my dry fire training, but I definitely noticed a difference when I switched from the cheapo orange plastic snaps to the A-zoom. Although not quite as heavy as a real load, a full magazine of the aluminum snapcaps feels a lot closer to real than the plastics did. Like you, I'm carrying a P226ST, which has a fair heft, anyway. I imagine that the difference is striking if your platform is a light alloy frame.
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    Yuo should be able to purchase a blue mag that weights close to a loaded mag. I think Ring's makes em.

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