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    hypothetical question. If a person puts a down payment on a pistol and waits for the NICS check and passes, is it likely that the person could get a concealed weapons license.

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    It's likely. You still have to fill any requirements of your state like taking a class or passing a shooting proficiency test. One would guess that if you passed the NICS check your criminal history at least is not an issue. Having a down payment on a gun is irrelevant to getting a carry permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigA2 View Post
    hypothetical question. If a person puts a down payment on a pistol and waits for the NICS check and passes, is it likely that the person could get a concealed weapons license.
    You should be able to find your answer here:

    http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html

    (Florida's concealed weapons laws).


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    Is this a hypothetical question as in you've done this, or hypothetical as in your thinking about it? Most places I've dealt with don't do the back ground check until the gun is paid for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigA2 View Post
    hypothetical question. If a person puts a down payment on a pistol and waits for the NICS check and passes, is it likely that the person could get a concealed weapons license.
    I would say that if you have cleared a background check for a handgun purchase, your record is most likely clean enough to qualify you for a carry permit. Don't forget the training requirements your state may have though as well as probable fees for the background check and processing.

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    Here's the basics - issues or history that might preclude you from getting a permit/license - if the hypothetical situation were in Florida:

    Possible Reasons for Ineligibility:

    o The physical inability to handle a firearm safely.
    o A felony conviction (unless civil and firearm rights have been restored by the convicting authority).
    o Having adjudication withheld or sentence suspended on a felony or misdemeanor crime of violence unless three years have elapsed since probation or other conditions set by the court have been fulfilled.
    o A conviction for a misdemeanor crime of violence in the last three years.
    o A conviction for violation of controlled substance laws or multiple arrests for such offenses.
    o A record of drug or alcohol abuse.
    o Two or more DUI convictions within the previous three years.
    o Being committed to a mental institution or adjudged incompetent or mentally defective.
    o Failing to provide proof of proficiency with a firearm.
    o Having been issued a domestic violence injunction or an injunction against repeat violence that is currently in force.
    o Renouncement of U.S. citizenship.
    o A dishonorable discharge from the armed forces.
    o Being a fugitive from justice.

    More info here:

    http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/eligible.html

    Oops! Sorry Capt'n Crunch - Just noticed you already have it covered.

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    If you have passed the criminal background check, that is a good start toward obtaining a permit to carry your pistol. I'd say the other's above have steered you in the right direction. There is a bit more involved than just passing the NICS check, when buying your gun.

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    Thanks

    Thanks Yall, for the replies.

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    Most places I've dealt with don't do the back ground check until the gun is paid for.
    Agreed, that's how we do it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sass20485 View Post
    If you have passed the criminal background check, that is a good start toward obtaining a permit to carry your pistol. I'd say the other's above have steered you in the right direction. There is a bit more involved than just passing the NICS check, when buying your gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Most places I've dealt with don't do the back ground check until the gun is paid for.
    I have bought two guns here in Florida within the last year, and both times the NICS check was completed before payment was made. I should mention that both purchases were made at the same gun shop, so maybe that is just the way that shop does business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    I would say that if you have cleared a background check for a handgun purchase, your record is most likely clean enough to qualify you for a carry permit. Don't forget the training requirements your state may have though as well as probable fees for the background check and processing.
    That's what I thought as well but was surprised to find out I could own a gun (even an NFA weapon) but couldn't qualify for a CCW in my state.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimpy View Post
    I have bought two guns here in Florida within the last year, and both times the NICS check was completed before payment was made. I should mention that both purchases were made at the same gun shop, so maybe that is just the way that shop does business.
    Did you put the guns on lay-away, or were you in the process of purchasing the gun while the check was going on?

    Allow me to rephrase, my earlier statement.

    If they do a back ground check before the gun is fully paid for using lay-away, they have performed the check before you're taking possession of the firearm. What I meant in my statement is that they usually do the check at the time of final sale when you're taking possession of the gun.


    If they didn't do it like that, you could put money down, do the check, get arrested for murder three days later, get bailed out and go pick up your gun without getting a background check....I don't think it works like that.

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    One difference (beyond training) in FL is that we run fingerprints for a CWL but not for a purchase. So it's possible to get a clean run by name and social, but fail for prints.

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    Hypothetically you passed a NICS. If that is all your state does to issue a concealed carry license then provided you did not hypothetically do something that would otherwise disqualify you from passing a NICS, then hypothetically you would be fine to get a concealed carry permit. Hypothetically of course. Your mileage and conviction rate may vary.

    NICS checks are good for 30 days. So said my local dealer. He is a pretty straight guy and abides by the letter, so I'll take his word for it.
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