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This is a discussion on Gun Control Myths Busted within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; The Gun Owners Foundation must have the single best gun control myth buster I have come across. It can be found at Gun Control Fact ...
The Gun Owners Foundation must have the single best gun control myth buster I have come across. It can be found at Gun Control Fact Sheet It is very long 65 pages with 23 pages of citations /sources but well worth the read. Tried to post it here but can't because it is 109,314 characters to big. The limit is 10,000 characters. Because it is so lengthy and because some may want to review some of the sources it cites I made a PDF version of it that you can download and print it out by clicking on GOF.pdf I did the best I could to maintain the authors format while keeping it readable and a reasonable size. Make some copies pass it around maybe some of these gun control fanatics will wake up. Or at least the ones they are fooling can read some truth. An excellent resource for anyone who wants some real fact based info on gun control with enough citations to keep me reading for months. I think I found me a new book list. Enjoy
Added to favorites...should be useful...Thanks!
(It IS looooooong...)
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
Certified Glock Armorer
NRA Life Member
excellant resource. thanks!
Thx for making the PDF Greg - ideal way to go
I'd like to add that to my own 2A oriented site - do you reckon that would be OK?
Chris - P95
NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member.
"To own a gun and assume that you are armed
is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."
http://www.rkba-2a.com/ - a portal for 2A links, articles and some videos.
Why are these things rarely up to date?
Folks go through the trouble of researching and writing these items but then they let them go stale for years or even as in the last thread like this a decade or more.
Keep this stuff updated year to year as otherwise it loses relevancy and if/when shown to an anti would be seen as less than fact filled because the facts aren't up to date.
This information is circa 2004 and my calendar right now is indicating it's 2007.
We all know most of that stuff, the hard part is convincing all the anti gun/pro criminal "give em a chance" crybabies out there.
Sorry but FACTS do not matter as much as our side thinks they do. We have had facts on our side for years yet the stability of our position is far from certain.
Emotion drives this issue and we need to use it.
JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION
OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP website. That discusses that very topic and has some good insight on how to deal with it. There is a pdf of that too at Raging Against Self Defense.pdf. Hope that helps
As well considering the number of sources cited and work involved there in I generally assume that the result is from the research work of many via collaboration.
Regardless though still even as the information sources as cited might not have changed themselves I'd still update the document considering it is for public consumption to reflect current and most modern information be it as provided quotes, reports, news, and studies all of which are continually being released.
I have myself done a similar job although for private consumption.
It took me lots of time to compile the information which I then drafted as an e-mail to my wife, who is very much anti. It was comprehensive and full of links toward sources. I've cited many of those same sources being current and relevant throughout multiple threads toward same here at this forum and elsewhere.
The results with my wife though were not positive. The reply being "I don't want to read all that propoganda(!)".
The old saying 'You can lead a horse to water, but not make him drink.' is very much true.
I have though had good success with persons other than my wife IRL taking them to the range and most recently just two days ago taking my neighbor who is a pacifist buddhist vegetarian with a hobby of bird watching to a course on Waterfowl Identification which itself is oriented toward duck hunting. My thought was that he'd enjoy the identification part of the education process while also seeing that the regulations and laws associated with hunting do protect species while at the same time helping manage wildlife which would on it's own grow to become unmanageable. Guess what...it's worked!
Day one of the class was Wednesday night being three hours held and taught at the US Fish & Wildlife Service HQ in MA. In class in so many words my neighbor said that this was great stuff to learn and that he found it all very interesting including the history of hunting et. al. he even has interest in learning the differences between a rifle and shotgun which in class he told me he had no clue what was what. I promised to send him info and links toward images explaining what each are and how they differ and function.
We go back to class on Saturday for part two at 8hrs. in length to learn more and cover observation of the species et. al. As he and I walked back to our cars in the parking lot he remarked to me about how he and his wife and daughter go bird watching by canoe and that he will take the printed guides we were given to help him in his hobby toward identification.
From that effort one anti is educated and though he may not personally choose to become involved in shooting of any sort he now though will go home and share with his also anti wife and maybe help her see some if nt all of the light.
I'm finding that as Muskateer mentioned facts matter less so much than emotion.
It's kind of like everyone knows that smoking is bad for you and the facts toward it are in print everywhere. But then look at how many still to this day smoke. It's emotion.
Items like these fact sheets are good for us the persons who have already drunk the Kool Aid to support our own assertions and to refer to when discussing as much with a fence rider or softer core anti. But sending them to these pages directly in hopes of a transformation, I've not yet IRL seen that work so well. Not to say one shouldn't try as I personally at home have.
Regards and thanks none the less for the info source!
Another very useful document is the Harvard study:
"This Article will not discuss the defensive use of firearms beyond making the following observations: while there is a great deal of controversy about the subject, it is a misleading controversy in which anti‐gun advocatesʹ deep ethical or moral objections to civilian self‐defense are presented in the guise of empirical argument. The empirical evidence unquestionably establishes that gun ownership by prospective victims not only allows them to resist criminal attack, but also deters violent criminals from attacking them in the first place."
Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked.
Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
Learning to shoot again : Starting Over
They lie constantly. I'm not saying we should lie, but we certainly should not pull our punches when we set out to make them look stupid. I mean, they are stupid. And they're working hard to try to actually take away one of our rights (leaving us vulnerable to losing the rest of them). So we should be out there pointing out how stupid they are, and at the same time tugging at the opposite end of the emotions they yank on: when they talk about children killed, we should be talking about, "Yeah, and what if it's your child killed--because you had never given a thought to how you would defend them against a predator?!
In other words, no more Mr. Nice Guy. A polite attitude toward those trying to harm us has not worked, not even with all the facts clearly on our side for decades.
Last edited by LongRider; October 6th, 2007 at 01:55 PM.
"When a man attempts to deal with me by force, I answer him—by force.
"... No, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had the right to choose: his own." -John Galt, Atlas Shrugged