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This is a discussion on Ever have anyone frighten by sight of gun within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by CLASS3NH When I was in my mid 20's a frind of mine pulled up in his car and got out to speak ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLASS3NH
    When I was in my mid 20's a frind of mine pulled up in his car and got out to speak with me. I had a shoulder rig on me, and was carrying a Colt Commander. He leaned in, noticed the weapon on me, and freaked out, grabbing his throat, and saying "OMG, you're carrying a gun" He got back in his car and drove off, only to call me at home later in the day. I told him I have been carrying a weapon since I was 21 (We've been friends since we were 14) He avoided speaking to me ever since that day. Oh well, he's been assaulted several times since then, and still doesn't get the message! LOl..
    "Yes. I happen to have a penis too. Are you afraid I'm going to rape you?" :1saufen:


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    Thumbs up Logic Wins Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72
    "Yes. I happen to have a penis too. Are you afraid I'm going to rape you?" :1saufen:
    A few years ago, an army officer was on a radio talk show and was talking about the summer camp program for little kids they ran and all was well until he got to the point about teaching the kids basic markjsmanship skills and gun safety. The female host was both SHOCKED and OUTRAGED. The colonel tried to be reasonable, saying the kids were taught SAFETY by the best instructors in the biz but she would not be deterred. So he asked her what her objections were?

    She SPUTTERED "Why you're equipping them to be COLD BLOODED KILLERS!"

    His reply?

    "Well You're "equipped" to be a PROSTITUTE....but you're NOT, right?"

    End of the interview, the woman stormed off the set and the colonel was asked not too nicely to leave.
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    Red face Rob72: wrong analogy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72
    "Yes. I happen to have a penis too. Are you afraid I'm going to rape you?" :1saufen:
    The terrible truth is that according to DOJ stats for the last two decades the odds of a lady being raped by the time she is 35 is about 65% so yeah, I'll bet that's a valid fear. The % that are not treated in such a manner are usually trained before the fact to either spot the attack in advance and avoid or to fight their way out. The secretary of my IDPA club went out to dinner with an old friend of over 20 years many years ago. They went dutch, even. He had too much too drink and suddenly she found herself off the side of the road and in a sexual assault underway. Fortunately she was able to DRAW and Mr GLOCK quickly calmed the situation, without even spattering his brains on the windshield as she warned him she was about to do.

    "BUT.....BUT....I thought you meant YES!" was his feeble excuse, before driving her home in a hurry.

    Nearly every woman I know has either had an actual attack or a close call. Of course my contact is usually as their firearms instructor.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier762
    The terrible truth is that according to DOJ stats for the last two decades the odds of a lady being raped by the time she is 35 is about 65% so yeah, I'll bet that's a valid fear. The % that are not treated in such a manner are usually trained before the fact to either spot the attack in advance and avoid or to fight their way out. The secretary of my IDPA club went out to dinner with an old friend of over 20 years many years ago. They went dutch, even. He had too much too drink and suddenly she found herself off the side of the road and in a sexual assault underway. Fortunately she was able to DRAW and Mr GLOCK quickly calmed the situation, without even spattering his brains on the windshield as she warned him she was about to do.

    "BUT.....BUT....I thought you meant YES!" was his feeble excuse, before driving her home in a hurry.

    Nearly every woman I know has either had an actual attack or a close call. Of course my contact is usually as their firearms instructor.....
    Yes, I definitely agree (I've seen more than a few SA's when I was working as an EMT), my smart-aleck reply was about the 20-something male, clutching his throat, at the sight of a firearm. I can almost understand a reaction like that from a female (given that we, as a society, teach that firearms are agression, and that women, in large part, are physically more vulnerable to agressive acts).

    Such pants-wetting panic from a man is vulgar. The Quakers, historically about the most pacifistic segment of our society, have demonstrated in most all our major conflicts the will and ability to knock an enemy on their keister, barehanded, when not bodily shielding the wounded. If you have moral objections to firearms, I will respectfully disagree. If you are a panicky, drooling fool, expecting the other members of society to provide, care for and nurture you, and you do not even have the strength of character to stand, face-to-the-front, for your beliefs.... I would view such a person as "food", myself....

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    We recently had a gathering of women milling around carrying signs about how bad men are and what can be done about the rapist in their community(LA CA). I am not making light of the situation but there were no suggestions about arming themselves or looking in any direction for help except to the TV camera. There are womens groups around to help with violence who teach how not to be a victim and yes the issue about arming yourself may come up. A women today should arm herself at an early age and be reasonable in the use of an handgun.
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    my girl got freaked by the sight of a "no gun" sign.

    ok a little history, she dosen't like guns, i got my CHL after i started dateing her. after a littel debate i got to carry to the Houston Museum of Natural scenice, where she saw an illegal (in texas) "no gun" sign. and freaked cause she thought we were going to be "arrested". i tried to explain to no avail, that was for non-license holders and criminials (cause we all know criminals read signs (oh no guns then i won't go in there and gun everybody down...no i just stab everybody.)

    /rant off.

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    Like it or not, we are all products of our environment to a great extent. Most urban dwellers only see guns in the hands of the police, criminals or on TV. They usually only read about them when they are involved in a shootout or robbery and as we all have probably noticed, most if not all newspapers, TV stations and city officials in general have a strong anti gun bias. When all you see or read are guns used by BG's and how "bad" they are for society, it will tend to slant you point of view towards the negative.

    As gun owners, it's up to us to educate the general public, one person at a time if necessary, concerning the truth about guns and the 98% of us gun owners/users who are law abiding citizens. I've heard the argument that guns are dangerous (all the people killed by guns every year), guns are only designed to kill and guns serve no useful purpose in society if you are a good, law abiding member of society. I respond with automobiles are dangerous and drunk drivers kill more innocent people in one week than are killed by firearms in a year. Should we outlaw cars? Yes, guns are designed to kill... that's why the were invented 500 years ago. At the same time, how many lives are saved and crimes prevented by good people who used those guns to impose the threat of grievous harm or death upon a BG? As for serving no useful purpose to society, I refer them back to my previous answer.

    If someone doesn't like guns, is afraid of guns or is simply ignorant about guns and their use and/or operation, I will gladly teach them the "error" of their ways if they wish. If they still choose to avoid firearms, that's their choice. However, that's THEIR choice, not mine. Just as I do with religion and politics, I don't impose my beliefs on anyone else and I expect - no, I DEMAND - the same courtesy in return.

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    Okay, I'll throw my story in.

    We live in a fairly rural neighborhood where most everyone is used to everyone else having guns. (Surprisingly low crime rate for having only a very few local police.) We also live right next to a state park and wildlife area. My brother and I were squirrel hunting in the wildlife area and walking back to the truck along a horse trail. We ran into a group of women who were horseback riding. We waved and said hello before they got too close as we didn't want to spook their horses. At that point one of them yells 'Oh my God, he has a gun!' (I was carrying an Remington 870 and my brother a .22 LR) and they make a hasty retreat in the other direction. We stood there dumbfounded for quite some time - not really sure how to even react. I guess times are changing but where I live, it still isn't unusual to see a kid (16 or older) walking down the street with a shotgun and a few squirrels.

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    When I was in high school I used to take my shotgun to school with me so I could deer hunt on the way home. The weapon always rode in a gunrack in the back window of my ol' P/U truck. I can't remember if I ever shot up the school and killed the students and teachers,but I don't think I did. I guess that I just had more RESPECT for authority back then. HOLY SMOKES !!! WHAT HAPPENED TO TODAYS YOUTH ???-------

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachilders
    Yes, guns are designed to kill... that's why the were invented 500 years ago. At the same time, how many lives are saved and crimes prevented by good people who used those guns to impose the threat of grievous harm or death upon a BG? As for serving no useful purpose to society, I refer them back to my previous answer.

    If someone doesn't like guns, is afraid of guns or is simply ignorant about guns and their use and/or operation, I will gladly teach them the "error" of their ways if they wish. If they still choose to avoid firearms, that's their choice. However, that's THEIR choice, not mine. Just as I do with religion and politics, I don't impose my beliefs on anyone else and I expect - no, I DEMAND - the same courtesy in return.
    The purpose of a gun, ANY gun is to put a little chunk of lead exactly where the shooter wants to place it, be that through a piece of paper at ten or a thousand yards, or into flesh (animal or human).

    Failure to place the round should be a problem of skill rather than mechanics.

    Yes, a firearm can be used as a weapon in several ways: It can be fired, or it can be the platform for an edged extension (bayonet) or it can be used to bludgeon. But more firearms are NOT used as weapons than there are firearms used in that role in this country. Please don't tell novices that guns are DESIGNED TO KILL that doesn't help our cause. Because if you're quoted by the media that will be THE story....and they will crow it to the skies: "SEE THEY EVEN ADMIT IT: GUNS ARE DESIGNED TO KILL" so let's get rid of them! Let's not give the anti crowd any more ummmmmm "ammo" than they can get on their own or manufacture in their faulty little minds.
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    Thumbs down I hate it when my piece hits the floor in public!

    I may have made mention of this little story some time ago on another thread, but I'll throw it in here for the sake of bumping the thread:

    A couple of years ago my wife was involved in a high society charity group (my sister is a past President of the group) and they had this huge fund raising bash in a swanky locale in downtown Miami. It's going to run from about 8pm until maybe 1am and includes a sumptious dinner. The parking garage takes up the first 10 floors of the building. The garage is DARK and while there is security, it's a meager, untrained force. So I wore my paid for monkey suit a full tux AND my Colt Officer's .45 in a yaqui slide holster. The Chief of Police was there, the Mayor, and all the rich and famous from the area (natives--not Madonna or Stallone). Everything is just FINE my wife is schmoozing and I'm drinking tons of diet soda because I NEVER drink alcohol and carry a gun. Then dinner comes and we move to tables to be seated.

    The chairs were a bit ummmm tight for my bulk (since then I've lost 40 pounds on Jenny Craig) and the chairs all had ARMS (this is important). When I sat down an arm of the chair neatly nudged the exposed barrel of my 45 and it slipped smoothly right out of my holster and hit the glossy wooden floor with an extremely LOUD THUNK!!!

    Everybody stopped their conversation and turned to simply STARE right at me. I calmly and unhurriedly bent over and reholstered and all eyes remained fixed on me during the whole sequence. Nobody said a word. Nobody. Everything progressed normally.

    But when my wife complained of an oncoming migraine, we made our excuses a couple of hours early. About THIRTY couples rose as a single group and followed us to the elevators. My poor wife had to sit in the security office while I escorted people to their cars. I explained I was a certified Firearms Instructor and handed out tons of cards all the while wives furiously nudged husbands with elbows to follow through. Some even did so. 45 min later, my achin' feet finally got my wife to the car and headed home. I haven't worn a yaqui slide holster since.
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    Great story! Glad it turned out well. It certainly could have been more embarassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier762
    The purpose of a gun, ANY gun is to put a little chunk of lead exactly where the shooter wants to place it, be that through a piece of paper at ten or a thousand yards, or into flesh (animal or human).

    Failure to place the round should be a problem of skill rather than mechanics.

    Yes, a firearm can be used as a weapon in several ways: It can be fired, or it can be the platform for an edged extension (bayonet) or it can be used to bludgeon. But more firearms are NOT used as weapons than there are firearms used in that role in this country. Please don't tell novices that guns are DESIGNED TO KILL that doesn't help our cause. Because if you're quoted by the media that will be THE story....and they will crow it to the skies: "SEE THEY EVEN ADMIT IT: GUNS ARE DESIGNED TO KILL" so let's get rid of them! Let's not give the anti crowd any more ummmmmm "ammo" than they can get on their own or manufacture in their faulty little minds.
    This is one we'll probably have to agree to disagree on. With the exception of target pistols and rifles or shotguns used only for Skeet or Trap, guns are designed and built to kill something. Hunters make up the vast majority of gun owners and when they shoot an animal it's, hopefully, to kill it. Of the handguns sold, the majority are also sold for either hunting or self defense. The first thing I was told by a LEO when I was applying for my concealed handgun license is you NEVER draw a gun on someone unless you're willing to use it and you NEVER shoot at someone unless you're willing to kill them. Not to wound, not to scare but to kill. A firearm's not designed to be a club or a spear, but a gun. Anything else is secondary and is a method of last resort when the gun is no longer capable of being fired. That is just the way it is. Trying to sugarcoat it or make a gun out to be something it's not is just another attempt at Political Correctness and to appease the anti gun lobby. If someone is dead set against guns, no amount of PC or soft peddling will change their minds.

    That being said, we can point out that a gun is a tool, like electricity, a hammer or knife, and is only as dangerous as the person using it. While it can take a life (as does electricity if misused), it also protects lives, puts food on the table for hundreds of thousands of families yearly and is a source of recreation for legions of target shooters.

    Trying to pander to a few liberal's sensitivities is what's behind many of the problems we gun owners face today. Other than trying to make ourselves out to be something we're not, maybe it's time we all stood up, opened a window and shouted as loud as we can "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore"!

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