Does your work policy prohibit you from carrying in your vehicle?

Does your work policy prohibit you from carrying in your vehicle?

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  • No. I can carry hidden in my car.

    70 31.82%
  • Yes. My company could fire me over this.

    93 42.27%
  • I would stop carrying to work if this was MY company policy.

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    Does your work policy prohibit you from carrying in your vehicle?

    I have a friend who has been given an ultimatum at work regarding their company policy. A new company policy (Private employer) states that the employer may seach you or your vehicle at any time without cause and without reason.

    Weapons are prohibited and if found would result in termination. My friend got a CCW and doesn't plan to carry the gun inside. But inspection of vehicles would keep them from having protection to/from work. (Which is why they got their CCW in the first place.)

    This is at a college but KY law does NOT forbid it. In fact, it seems to say that an employer cannot keep an employee from carrying in their PERSONAL vehicle. (See at bottom of page if interested.)

    I would like to know how many of you CAN carry IN YOUR CAR as far as your company policy is concerned. (I am not concerned with carry inside your building or removing your weapon from the vehicle).

    It is good to see someone standing up for our rights though it appears it will cost them their job.

    It is sad that our freedom is disappearing.

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    A private but not a public employer may prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed deadly weapons license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or ammunition, or both in vehicles owned by the employer, but may not prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed deadly weapons license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or ammunition, or both in vehicles owned by the employee, except that the Justice Cabinet may prohibit an employee from carrying any weapons, or ammunition, or
    both other than the weapons, or ammunition, or both issued or authorized to be used by the employee of the cabinet, in a vehicle while transporting persons under the employee's supervision or jurisdiction.
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    In this state, no one has the right to prohibit you from carrying in your vehicle by the letter of the law.

    However, large companies do it anyway.

    The reason they get away with it is that us peons don't have the 40 million dollars in our pockets it would take to launch a successful lawsuit to get Motorola to obey the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclidean
    In this state, no one has the right to prohibit you from carrying in your vehicle by the letter of the law.

    However, large companies do it anyway.

    The reason they get away with it is that us peons don't have the 40 million dollars in our pockets it would take to launch a successful lawsuit to get Motorola to obey the law.
    I suspect that unless the employee is suspected of industrial expionage, and therefore giving the "large company" reasonable cause to search the vehicle, there have not been any instances of employees having the vehicles searched for firearms. I would think that based on the law (Texas, anyway) that it would only take a "day-after Law School graduate" to get this one thrown out of court. My company, L-3 has policies regarding weapons "inside the facilities" only. Doesn't apply to the parking lot.....heck, my particular company has a stronger policy over smoking....they do in fact ban smoking in your vehicle while on company property....read that "parking lot"....go figure!
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    Has yet to be really tested

    According to my CHL instructor (Texas) a company does have the right to ban weapons of an employee in their building, however the private vehicle issue is something that has yet to be really tested.
    A new law goes into effect Sept 1st allowing unlicensed citizens to carry concealed weapons in their private vehicles, so this issue is bound to come up in this state very soon.

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    I work on military bases and my car is subject to search. In fact over the last few years I have been picked for a random search at the gate several times. If I decided to carry anyway it would just be a matter of time before I was caught.

    I work behind two layers of security, one is the base gates and two is a secure compound with armed guards. It's probably the safest place in the world to work. When I get home from work I just grab my carry pistol before going back out to run arrands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechE
    I work on military bases and my car is subject to search. In fact over the last few years I have been picked for a random search at the gate several times. If I decided to carry anyway it would just be a matter of time before I was caught.

    I work behind two layers of security, one is the base gates and two is a secure compound with armed guards. It's probably the safest place in the world to work. When I get home from work I just grab my carry pistol before going back out to run arrands.
    The military base issue is one I can relate to. Being retired, I still have base privileges...commissary and such, but they don't allow even CCW permit holders to carry on base. That part doesn't bother so much, but they (at least a couple near me) won't provide a means to "check it in" and pick up after exiting. Seems that would be a reasonable request.
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    When I'm at the company office the car is ok. I'm rarely there so it doesn't matter much to me I guess. I spend the bulk of my time training military folks on military installations, so no carry there. Most of the rest of my time is split between home and overseas.

    -Scott-

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    Considering I'm primarily self-employed, and moonlight at a gun shop, neither have a policy that prohibits guns.

    On the contrary, I require them and so does the shop. ;)
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    The company I work for prohibits any type weapons including pocket knives. This goes for personal own vehicles and while at work and company vehicles. I drive a company vehicle all the time but still carry due to the areas I go too. The basic rule is if nobody sees it then its ok but if seen or used your history.

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    I work at the airport so I guess Im hosed.

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    By law here in Minnesota an employer cannot ban guns in their parking lot. Recently some churches got a judge to allow them to ban guns in their parking lots, but that has yet to be run through the court system. I would simply park on the road outside my companies property if that is possible for your friend to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USP45
    I work at the airport so I guess Im hosed.
    Yea...If you get caught one of those highly trained TSA security folks :got-hooli will give you a body cavity search and stamp "Terrorist" on your forehead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by havegunjoe
    By law here in Minnesota an employer cannot ban guns in their parking lot. Recently some churches got a judge to allow them to ban guns in their parking lots, but that has yet to be run through the court system. I would simply park on the road outside my companies property if that is possible for your friend to do.
    Time to look for a new church! My favorite history lesson: The town of Rifle, Colorado, got its name because the town minister told his faithful- We are surrounded by heathens, savages, and ruffians.... Ya'll bring your rifles & come to hear the Lord's Word!

    My step-dad was a SB minister. He carried his Ruger SuperBlackhawk .44 Mag, when travelling(rural CO, KS, and TN). His statement, "I'm carrying the Word and the Sword."

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    The problem isn't at my office

    I carry to work and leave it in my truck, which is parked right outside the window where our "guard" (read "access controller") sits. The parking spaces are very close to the door of the building. Several co-workers can also see the parking area from their second story windows, but my window is around the corner of the building, sigh.

    The trouble arises when I have to go to a client facility...a government client facility or military base. One time I got back from lunch to learn that the client had called an emergency meeting at their facility and everyone else had already gone over there. I couldn't take my truck on their compound with the gun in it so I had to find a company vehicle to drive. I told my supervisor the problem and he was fine with it.

    I'm also retired Air Force and have to leave the gun home when I go to a base. There oughta be a provision for checking it with the Security Police or equivalent, or lockers to put it in while on base.

    Then there's been the problem of the kids to be picked up or dropped off at school. Fortunately, Virginia has solved that for us. Effective 1 July, Virginia CCW holders can have the gun in the vehicle while dropping off or picking up kids. Chalk one up for the good guys! Now about that stupid restaurant ban...

    Rick

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    I can sorta understand the military base deal but otherwise - seems like it's more brownie points awarded to the bad guys!

    I am so, so glad to be both self-employed and (the wishful thinking bit) - semi-retired!! I won't even go outa state these days - well, not to most of the adjacent states anyways!
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