What's Up With Wi & Il?????

What's Up With Wi & Il?????

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    What's Up With Wi & Il?????

    I was just looking at a reciprocity map, of the US and noticed, Wisconsin and Illinois, are "right denied" states. All other states are may-issue, or shall-issue. Does this mean, in WI and IL you can't carry at all? Or they just don't issue CWP's? Sorry if this has been talked about here before, but those are just 2 states I wouldn't think would be anti-gun.
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    Unbelieveable isn't it! I live in southern Illinois however there is sanity in my future. We started looking for property in Wyoming and as soon as we can sell our house, we're out of there.
    As is indicated on the map, we have absolutely no provision to carry concealed anywhere in the state! I'm personally hoping that Chicago will slide off into lake michigan and all will be much better politically in the state. Short of that happening, I don't think things will ever change.
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    You left out MD too!!

    Sad isn't it that these states seem to resist any sensible move toward CCW - when so much of the nation has gone that way. I keep hoping things will change but would not risk death thru breath holding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    You left out MD too!!

    Sad isn't it that these states seem to resist any sensible move toward CCW - when so much of the nation has gone that way. I keep hoping things will change but would not risk death thru breath holding!
    MD on the maps I looked at said it is a "may-issue" state, which knowing Maryland, they may issue you one when hell freezes over. I lived there for about a year, one year too long. Anyway what I don't get is a state saying "right denied", if it's a right, how can the state deny you that right??? I just don't understand it, maybe I need to become an anti-gun liberal for a year or two, to figure this all out. They seem to have all the answers.
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    Yep - in theory a right-is-a-right - is-a-right. Hard to believe huh! Denial of our right to life - would of course suggest murder! Makes ''rights'' seem pretty dismal eh!

    As for prep'ing for figuring all this craziness out - I suggest you practice the dubious art of gut emotion and push all logic to one side - that should enable you to nicely enhance any attempt at ''anti impressionism"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    I keep hoping things will change but would not risk death thru breath holding!
    I forgot to put in my last post, your avitar's feathers, are looking kinda blue, you may want to tell him to quit holding his breath too.
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    One word regarding Illinois-CHICAGO!!!!!!
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    Illinois is on the top of my gripe list. I have relatives there and go there quite often. Be going to tomorrow.. Dont know if that state will ever wake up.

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    If you want to experience how a liberal's mind works, suspend all logical thought processes and form all your opinions based on how it makes you feel.

    Do not consider whether an action will actually cause a desired result. If the action feels right in your heart, that is your position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911packer View Post
    If you want to experience how a liberal's mind works, suspend all logical thought processes and form all your opinions based on how it makes you feel.

    Do not consider whether an action will actually cause a desired result. If the action feels right in your heart, that is your position.
    Definitely agree about the second part.


    The first part... i'd modify to...

    [begin liberal thinking]

    "How would the "little guy" feel? What can we do to HELP criminals, so they won't be criminals anymore? What can we do to UNDERSTAND criminals? How can we bring down the majority to even the playing field for the minority ?"

    "A guy shouldn't be punished because he was beat up as a kid, and now wants to murder people. He should be cherished and loved for the good person underneath, and his "mistakes" should be forgotten. We all deserve a second, third, fourth, and fifth chance at life."

    "Everyone needs to change, except maybe us, because we're important enough to get people to change."

    [end liberal thinking]


    I think a lot of very liberal people have their hearts in the right place, but man, I whole-heartedly disagree with their policies and how they go about instilling change.

    But, I have some gripes about super-conservatives too. Though religion is very important, forcing others to accept one's extreme fundamentalism and try to control them through doctorine is just as bad as the muslim/jihadist movement. In addition, sometimes a little bit of change might be good for you every once in a while. Sure, we need to stick to "what works," but there are lots of things to be improved in this country.

    Anyway... sorry if I've annoyed anyone. Just expressing personal opinions, and I know most may not agree with them. I'm not pointing anyone out or trying to start anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senseiturtle View Post
    Anyway... sorry if I've annoyed anyone. Just expressing personal opinions, and I know most may not agree with them. I'm not pointing anyone out or trying to start anything.
    You certainly didn't annoy me, with that post, you made some great points, as did the poster you quoted.
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    Chicago has such a huge liberal population that it dominates state politics. It has been, and will continue to be, very difficult for pro-gun activists to make changes at the state level.

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    Hey, WAIT A MINUTE!! There is concealed carry in Wisconsin and in Illinois!! If you are a crack dealer, car thief, criminal, band robber, car-jacker......no problem.....carry anything, anytime!! But, for all us good guys, wishing to protect ourselves and families, forget it.

    Used to live in Wisconsin, the most socialist state in the union....will never go back.



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    I was going to add CA, but then I remembered that if you walk with a 'swagger' in your leather chaps and your Glock is 'pink' you can get a permit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I was going to add CA, but then I remembered that if you walk with a 'swagger' in your leather chaps and your Glock is 'pink' you can get a permit...
    Got a picture of that? Just hard for me to frame this in my mind..
    I know, I know, you are smarter than me..just ask you..

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