Lamberts cafeteria, road block & Illinois
This is a discussion on Lamberts cafeteria, road block & Illinois within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I live in Ky and some friends wanted me to meet them at Lamberts lastnight in Sikeston Missouri ( home of the throwed rolls ). ...
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October 7th, 2007 09:30 PM
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Lamberts cafeteria, road block & Illinois
I live in Ky and some friends wanted me to meet them at Lamberts lastnight in Sikeston Missouri ( home of the throwed rolls ). I had read on here that the one in Ozark Mo was posted, but never heard if the one in Sikeston was. I had decided I was going to carry anyway even if it was posted. I really had no way out of meeting these people there. Well it IS posted. Two small signs on the double doors going in. I don't know what the state requires, but these are maybe 4 inches across (plastic stick ons ). I was amazed at the size of this place, it was like the size of a friggin K-Mart. The food was good , but I certainly wouldn't drive that far ( over 60 miles ) just for that. I about drew on someone when they threw a roll at me..
On the way there I have to cross 2 bridges. The first bridge crosses into Illinois, but I was only in Illiinois for about 1/2 mile before hitting the next bridge into Missouri. I had to unload my gun, lock it up , drive 1/2 mile and then load it back up as I got in Missouri. Then had to do it again on the way back. It was SO rediculous. But I felt it would have been the perfect place for an Ill-annoy cop to sit and catch people with permits.
On the way home , about midnight( in Ky ) I hit a road block. The cop asked for my license, I gave him my permit and my license and told him I was carrying. He asked " You do have a gun on you?" I said yes. He asked "where is it"? I said " In my waistband" , he said "well just dont grab for it" , of course I replied "Oh I wont".. He checked me out and told me to have a nice evening.. In Ky I don't have to inform but I choose to..So that was my Saturday night.....
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October 7th, 2007 09:30 PM
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October 7th, 2007 09:50 PM
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I realize you do so by choice, but what was the point of informing him at all???
Please don't say it's for the "officer's safety", since YOU know you're not a bad guy and he was not at risk.
And, since you weren't pulled over for a moving violation, I assume you weren't suckin' up...heh.
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October 7th, 2007 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I realize you do so by choice, but what was the point of informing him at all???
Please don't say it's for the "officer's safety", since YOU know you're not a bad guy and he was not at risk.
And, since you weren't pulled over for a moving violation, I assume you weren't suckin' up...heh.
Courtesy.
In Texas it is required. Regardless, I think if I were in the officer's shoes I would appreciate anyone that is licensed to carry informing me that they are licenced and are carrying. Not necessarily saying "I have a gun" but handing the drivers license along with with CHL permit.
If it were me, it would put me at ease and give me a bit of a mental break for the few seconds it takes to tell them to move along. Sometimes that few seconds would do a world of good.
Oh, and I look forward to eating at Lambert's in Sikeston when I travel to Wisconsin from Texas. Their food is good. Lots of old folks there though, lol.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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October 7th, 2007 10:04 PM
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This has been discussed sooo many times on here, I'm not even going there. ( no offense), Just put me in the catagory of thinking it's best. Like you said, it was not to get out of a ticket. My intentions of this thread was not to argue rather one should inform or not.
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October 7th, 2007 10:06 PM
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Ooops, the above post was in response to "JimmyC"..
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October 7th, 2007 11:24 PM
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Every things smoooooth, good for you! Wouldn't it be grand if we had a peaceful journey anywhere in the USA if we were in our vehicles. 
Z
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October 8th, 2007 12:11 AM
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I know the area you are talking about. I just came through their a week ago. Coming home from a two week vacation to the east coast. That was the only stretch I could not carry in. What a pain to disarm for a short time of driving.
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October 8th, 2007 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Courtesy.
In Texas it is required. Regardless, I think if I were in the officer's shoes I would appreciate anyone that is licensed to carry informing me that they are licenced and are carrying. Not necessarily saying "I have a gun" but handing the drivers license along with with CHL permit.
If it were me, it would put me at ease and give me a bit of a mental break for the few seconds it takes to tell them to move along. Sometimes that few seconds would do a world of good.
Oh, and I look forward to eating at Lambert's in Sikeston when I travel to Wisconsin from Texas. Their food is good. Lots of old folks there though, lol.
+1 to that
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October 8th, 2007 03:00 AM
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"Well it IS posted. Two small signs on the double doors going in. I don't know what the state requires, but these are maybe 4 inches across (plastic stick ons )"
I see that alot around here and it makes me mad, since, if you read the MO laws on concealed carry, a legal posted no-carry sign must be 11x14 inches with letters at least 1 inch tall. It seems like many places just stick one tiny sign on a hidden corner of the door or window where no one can see it. Anyway, sorry about the ranting. Glad everything went OK for you with the LEO.
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October 8th, 2007 05:43 AM
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robere the signs at Lamberts are not legal size but what difference does that make. If they do not want our money then they do not want our money. They are so big now with all the tour busses stoping there, they can pick and choose who they want in and my $20 to $30 is not going to hurt them. I rather spend my money with some one who apreciates a law abiding person coming in. Next time tell your friend that we'll meet about 30 miles farther, at the Crautherville Casino. They have good food there at a cheap price.
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October 8th, 2007 05:58 AM
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After thinking what I said, I notice the casino was a stupid choice since you can not carry there either. I wish I could tell you of a good restaraunt in that area.
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October 8th, 2007 08:27 AM
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And just a shout out about Lambert's in Ozark, MO - they do have a legal sign... no shooting rolls there
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October 8th, 2007 01:29 PM
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This is the same thing as PA, MD and WV. Gotta stop at the border everytime and unload just to drive 5 miles into WV... its a pain in the butt.
At least with you being in KY... you could avoid IL by making a slight detour I'm sure, but where I am I'd have to drive 3 hours or more out of my way to avoid MD since it goes along 2/3 of the southern PA border.
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October 8th, 2007 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
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if you read the MO laws on concealed carry, a legal posted no-carry sign must be 11x14 inches with letters at least 1 inch tall. It seems like many places just stick one tiny sign on a hidden corner of the door or window where no one can see it.
It just occurred to me that maybe these places know that their signs are not legal and carry no weight under the law. But the bed wetting pansy liberals don't know that. So the signs are up to appease the spineless momma's boys, while unbeknownst to them their safety and that of the business is being assured by real American Citizens
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October 8th, 2007 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
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It just occurred to me that maybe these places know that their signs are not legal and carry no weight under the law. But the bed wetting pansy liberals don't know that. So the signs are up to appease the spineless momma's boys, while unbeknownst to them their safety and that of the business is being assured by real American Citizens
Wow LongRider it sure sounds like you're mad. Just jokeing. In Missouri a legal size sign does not carry much weight. If caught all they can do is ask you to leave. If you do not leave only then are you breaking the law. To me its no big deal. I do not want to spend my money where I'm not appreciated. There too many restaraunts in that town than to worry about that one.
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