What DO you think?

What DO you think?

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    What DO you think?

    If one is driving in his carry state (say WV) without a weapon and gets stopped in WV by a LEO...does that individual need to show his CCW permit, like usual, and then explain that no weapon is present; or do you think that person should shut up?????


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    If your state requires LEO notification, then your answer is simple - yes. If not, then I would still say yes, since it is likely your home state LEO's would see your permit pop up when they run your ID.

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    If there isn't a law requiring you to notify, I see no sense in it. Some people mention to try to get out of a ticket, but I don't suggest it.
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    I don't see any need to show your permit if you don't have a weapon. But that's just me...

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    In Michigan you have to show both state ID and CPL reguardless.
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    I'ma gonna notify officer that I have a CCW permit, but have no weapon on me.

    I know that IN if I'm the RO of the vehicle, and my plates get run, it gets flagged that I have a handgun permit!

    I'd rather set the officer at ease and tell him that I don't have a weapon...even though I do have the permit.

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    It is my understanding that you have to notify the officer that you have a weapon. If you are not carrying there is nothing to notify. Standard procedure here is for the officer to notify you for the reason you were stopped and to ask if you have any weapons in the car. Since our state has a peaceful journey law. Anyone can have a loaded weapon in their car while traveling here.

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    You guys and gals are so quick and smart. I love the feedback and straight-up honest answers. I for one, would never be without my weapon, but then that's a different story!

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    no weapon--no notification

    weapon?--default to the rules of your state and exercise personal judgement.
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    I would definitely notify. When they run you and get the return they will most likely know you have a permit. If you fail to mention it I imagine they might start to wonder why. If they start to wonder about that it might make them overly curious and inquisitive. What could be a two minute stop could turn into ten minutes. I have better things to do than sit on the side of the road waiting for them to satisfy their curiosity.
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    In some states I can see a reason to notify. In Arizona, your permit is tied to your license. So even if you don't tell them you have a permit or a weapon, they'll be asking when they come back. But here they ALWAYS ask you about firearms or weapons first before they even ask for license and registration.

    In any other state, *if* I don't have the sidearm I won't bother to inform I have a permit. What's the point? I don't carry to impress LEO's. However if I have my firearm, I will ALWAYS inform. Officer safety and my own.

    That's just my take on it.
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    I will put in my .02 since I am a fellow mountaineer. I always hand mine over with the DL, just as a "tip of the hat sort of thing " to the officer. If he/she asks I just tell him it is not in the car, though that is very rare. It is better to tell them and them expect it. than it to pull up on a computer screen, and them come back and ask the uneasy "why did you not tell me?"questions.
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    In NC the law states this.

    When approached or addressed by any officer, you must disclose the fact that you have
    a valid concealed handgun permit and inform the officer that you are in possession of a
    concealed handgun.

    You must inform the officer even if you have a permit and are not carring at the time.
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    In Oklahoma the Self Defense Act clearly states that if a CHL holder is NOT carrying, there is no need to notify the officer of your status -- it is only when you are actually in possession of a gun that you must notify.

    I'm not certain but I THINK that in OK the cops computers don't show the CHL status along with the driver license.

    Whenever I am out and about in the car, I carry so this hasn't come up for me personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticWolf View Post
    In Michigan you have to show both state ID and CPL reguardless.
    Not so. The law provides that one only has to inform if one is carrying. I carry a printout of the applicable law in my vehicle in case there's any discussion about CPLs.
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