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October 10th, 2007 02:05 PM
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If you were asked. . . . .
If you were asked if you were carrying in a facility or circumstance where it was legal to carry but that had unofficial postings against it, how would you answer?
I am about to go to my doctors office. In Texas it is not illegal to enter buildings that are not officially posted in accordance with the CHL statutes. That includes any form of unofficial markings. My doctors office is an example of this. I was considering how I would answer if one of the staff thought they saw something and decided to ask me if I was carrying a handgun. Personally I don't think it is any of their business. I don't think of staff as representing the building's owner. Certainly if I gave them an answer that was non-committal they could ask me to leave, and of course I would.
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But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...
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October 10th, 2007 02:08 PM
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Asked by whom?
That makes a big difference.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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October 10th, 2007 02:08 PM
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I reckon I'd say "Now why would you ask that?"
I might then launch into the old one that goes like this: "My old grand dad lived to be 103..."
<"I suppose you're going to tell me that's because he carried a gun?">
"Nope! He knew how to mind his own business..."
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October 10th, 2007 02:10 PM
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#4. Not answer..........I invoke my right to remain silent.
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October 10th, 2007 02:11 PM
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Tell them don't worry about it.
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October 10th, 2007 02:14 PM
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I have anticipated that question and would likely reply first with "who are you?" Then as politely as I could I'd say "well sir/ma'am, that really isn't any of your business!"
I have thought of a bunch of smart remarks too but I would really try to refrain! 
You could always answer like a politician... "I can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of a dangerous weapon on or about my person!"
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
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October 10th, 2007 02:14 PM
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"That's no one's buisness but mine."
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October 10th, 2007 02:37 PM
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I'd say "A gentleman neither asks nor answers impolite questions".
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October 10th, 2007 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I'd say "A gentleman neither asks nor answers impolite questions".
Now that's good!
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
"A superior Operator is best defined as someone who uses his superior
judgement to keep himself out of situations that would require a display of his
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October 10th, 2007 03:16 PM
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The reason I ask by whom is that in Texas your guilty of criminal tresspass if you stay on the property if asked to leave while carrying concealed. So, if a business owner asks you if your carrying concealed, I would think that you would either be required to answer and then take instruction from the owner or person with "apparent authority" that it is ok for you to stay, or leave if your not willing to answer the question. If it is the stockboy asking, well that is a totally different deal.
If your carrying concealed the only way for them to know would be to actually ask you and for you to answer, unless you exposed your weapon in some manner.
Maybe there are some better legal minds here than me, but that is my take, for what Texas law says.
PC 30.06
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the
owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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October 10th, 2007 03:28 PM
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I don't buy the logic that lying to a private citizen in TX = tresspass. If they want to ban CCW then properly post it, they do not even need to ask you. They could even ask you, you could say no, and they could say "good, cause we ban it" and all you would have to do is go put it in the car.
If they do not ban it I see no reason to volunteer anything in a place like TX.
In other places where the sign has no weight of law I see no reason to answer John Q. Public with anything but what he wants to hear, which may be a lie.
If they are going to lie to me that their place is gun free because of a policy I see no reason not lie to them that I don't have one.
I am working under the assumption we are NOT dealing with a LEO.
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October 10th, 2007 04:14 PM
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its not "lying to a private citizen" that makes it tresspassing, its if they give you the required notice oral or written and you enter or stay on the premesis that makes it tresspassing
(this is of course for Texas)
written communication can be the approved signs or a card/paper they hand you in person with the same text as the signs
oral communication is not defined for this law so if the "property owner or someone apparently acting for the property owner" gives you oral notice then you have to stay out or leave if you're already inside
its a far stretch but a stock boy could be acting on the owner's behalf, you never know these days
I for one would not answer the question but would rather ask them why are they asking me such a question and see what they say. If I'm told they don't allow it then I leave, simple as that.

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October 10th, 2007 04:56 PM
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How about "Well, if you don't know then neither do the bad guys"?
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October 10th, 2007 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
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You could always answer like a politician... "I can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of a dangerous weapon on or about my person!"
I really like this one. I will have to keep this one readily available.
But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...
"Baa."
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October 10th, 2007 07:18 PM
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