Anyway, all guns are always loaded.
This is a discussion on Oh man I feel bad within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by SIXTO Easy answer. We are talking about guns stored in a safe. If they are in the safe, they are not very ...
Anyway, all guns are always loaded.
Good job, you deserve a cookie.
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Hi Guys, and thanks again for all the great comments and advice.
I had the opportunity today wile working (Clients that want things yesterday) to ponder allot of things and to realize just how lucky I was that no one was hurt. I honestly don't know how or if I could handle things if one of the people I love was hurt do to my complacency. My attitude and gun handling practices have changed dramatically wile at home, I think one of the biggest things I have learned from this is the FACT that what is excepted and safe at the range when practicing with the IDPA or USPSA guys does not translate into safe gun handling at home. I will take to heart and start practicing some of the safety practices that some of you have talked about here. I really don't know what else to say. Yes it was hard to make this post. Heck I'm a grown man and I do have allot of pride. And take allot of pride in what I have learned over the last few years about guns. But I am certainly no expert. But if I can learn more from you guys and if someone can learn from what I have done. Then yes by all means I will be glad to eat some humble pie.
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Tnx for posting this mishap LB..I have soaked in all the good advice that everyone has offed..I love learning!
Feel free to look up my thread about this I believe it was in the General Discussion forum.
I will give a run down as to what happened.
My friend loaded a mag, loaded his gun, put it in the safe and inserted a "safety plug" in the chamber and left it like that for a few week's. He then goes to the range, forget's all about loading a loaded magazine when he put it in the safe, wanted to show me his new gun at the range, pulled the slide back to pull the plug out and apparently loading a round at the same time. He has a very nasty habit of pulling the trigger or at least putting his finger on the trigger EVERYTIME he pick a weapon up and the gun went off. It was not pointed in a safe direction and I am lucky to be alive today.
My point about the plug is it gave him a false sense of security, if it wasn't in there this might not have happened. Although, with a finger on the trigger all the time it is going to happen and will happen again. I don't shoot with him anymore and keep my distance.
Last edited by Ti Carry; October 22nd, 2007 at 07:37 PM.
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Let's please try to keep the discussion polite and respectful toward other fellow members.
I don't think the mild sarcasm is really adding much to this particular thread.
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I like the especially like the "slow it all down" part. I think its posible that Longbow got distracted because of all the people watching him "unload".
Just like the ATF agent who shot himself in the foot. I really don't believe he was a TOTAL idiot; I think he just had extreme stage fright.
With all the people watching, he just couldn't concentrate on the task at hand.
We all need to force ourselves to slow down and take the job of checking the condition of our firearms very seriously.
I haven't flown in years but when I did, I also used the dorky laminated checklist for the 172. The idea of flying to the crash site bothered me enough to be very methodical in my pre-flight.
We should have our mental checklist for loading and unloading a gun ready and available at all time, too!
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If my points have not become clear to you in all this time, and a few dozen posts, I guess you won't be understanding me and my viewpoint any time soon.
But I don't understand why an obvious personal slam like that is allowed to stand. The things I have said with regard to NDs have not been personal chides at all. They have simply been my views about the excuses people make, and what I see as the lack of validity of some of them. Everything I say remains open to discussion and polite challenge. What you are doing is impolite.
If you can snidely refer to me as "perfect," should I be able to start calling those who've had NDs "morons" or something? Or would you be running to a moderator?
As far as that yellow doohickie is concerned, I just don't see the utility.
How would that protect anyone against having an ND after the point where they HAVE loaded their gun?? I mean, that's all well and good for making sure that an unloaded gun is clear. But don't lots of these NDs happen with people handling their CCW guns? Don't they happen a lot under circumstance where it's fair to assume a gun should be loaded, or at least could be?
If the use of that yellow thing is to provide for certain knowledge that a gun kept in a gun safe is clear of ammunition, then I see a degradation in gun safety rather than an improvement. If people use an artificial means to safety as a replacement for "drop the mag, rack the slide, check the chamber," then we are not moving forward, we are moving backward. No gimmicky doodad is good enough to replace the very simple practices that guarantee safety.
And now this thread is sliding down hill even faster.
I nominate it for a thread close.
I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.