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This is a discussion on Stupid Georgia Gun Laws Almost Enabled Mass Shooting Last Week within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I live in Washington state on the Border of Oregon. Washington has a law against carrying in bars, but Oregon doesn't. It seems that law ...

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    I live in Washington state on the Border of Oregon. Washington has a law against carrying in bars, but Oregon doesn't. It seems that law makers don't think that people are smart enough not to drink if they are carrying a gun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realleycat View Post
    Leave our Florida Laws alone! I don't want to be forced to open carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol. The 51% rule works fine for me...
    I wasn't suggesting changing Fla law. Tenn has a tendency to view trends that originate in Fla, even more than Tex. If Fla already allows it, then it needs to be widely known here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzmtg View Post
    Uh...what?
    Front page of the Newpaper. You know. Atlanta Journal-Constitution ring a bell? Those liberal folks who would just love to print a story about a CP holder carrying where they shouldn't.

    That's EXACTLY the type of exposure that we don't need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    Front page of the Newpaper. You know. Atlanta Journal-Constitution ring a bell? Those liberal folks who would just love to print a story about a CP holder carrying where they shouldn't.

    That's EXACTLY the type of exposure that we don't need.
    I don't think an arrest of someone carrying at a bar would be front page news. Let's be realistic.

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    TN safe harbor clause now null and void! Read below.

    Quote Originally Posted by tankdriver View Post
    Why?

    TN's law is written with a "Safe Harbor" clause. If you carry where you should not, and you have to use your weapon, they will not go back and charge you with illegale carry.

    39-17-1322. Defenses. —

    A person shall not be charged with or convicted of a violation under this part if the person possessed, displayed or employed a handgun in justifiable self-defense or in justifiable defense of another during the commission of a crime in which that person or the other person defended was a victim.


    [Acts 1994, ch. 943, § 1.]
    Tankdriver: that all got negated last legislative session. A bill was passed and signed that basically states that if you are committing any type of criminal offense, that can include carrying in an establishment that sells alcohol for on site consumption or even speeding or even driving with expired tags, that you can not claim self-defense if you have to shoot.

    This is what is being taught in the permit classes now. This is fairly new, many people do not know about this.

    TN has some screwy laws and there are many that need to be changed. This is just one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Mike View Post
    Tankdriver: that all got negated last legislative session. A bill was passed and signed that basically states that if you are committing any type of criminal offense, that can include carrying in an establishment that sells alcohol for on site consumption or even speeding or even driving with expired tags, that you can not claim self-defense if you have to shoot.

    This is what is being taught in the permit classes now. This is fairly new, many people do not know about this.

    TN has some screwy laws and there are many that need to be changed. This is just one of them.
    GA has a similar provision with a small but important distinction.

    If one is carrying illegally and fires in self defense, one may not seek immunity from prosecution under our expanded “castle doctrine.” It does not erase all possibility of claiming self defense.

    O.C.G.A. § 16-3-24.2
    Immunity from prosecution; exception
    A person who uses threats or force in accordance with Code Section 16-3-21, 16-3-23, 16-3-23.1, or 16-3-24 shall be immune from criminal prosecution therefor unless in the use of deadly force, such person utilizes a weapon the carrying or possession of which is unlawful by such person under Part 2 or 3 of Article 4 of Chapter 11 of this title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzmtg View Post
    I don't think an arrest of someone carrying at a bar would be front page news. Let's be realistic.
    After viewing ajc.com, I realize you're right. Otherwise they wouldn't have room for Queen Latifah.

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