Another "Why are people so bad with gun safety" Post.
This is a discussion on Another "Why are people so bad with gun safety" Post. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; This past weekend I went with a large group of people for an outing there were roughly 25-28 of us. Skeet shoot, rifle targets, handguns ...
October 30th, 2007 05:33 PM
October 30th, 2007 06:25 PM
so your like me .. in favor of gun control (i and i alone want control of guns around me).
when you see someone with obvious lack of judgement ,smack them in the back of the head with shotgun barrel . just a little wake-up call there friend , carry on , smack ! woops looks like you were dozing again .
if after repeated mind sets , they still don't get it time for you to git it .
yes this was mostly in jest ,but you will be suprized how much a shotgun barrel will make you think.
anyway stay safe
October 30th, 2007 06:31 PM
That would be the last time I'd go shooting anything more deadly than rubber bands with that particular group of people. If they're your friends, they'll understand; if they're not, it doesn't matter.
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October 30th, 2007 06:40 PM
Was it an organized event? Was anyone in charge of that group?
Somebody needs a talking to!
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October 30th, 2007 06:43 PM
I was at our range exactly one time when there was a skeet shoot going on.
I'll never be anywhere on the property for another one. These folks have the mentality that once the breech is open, you can sweep every man, boy and dog on the line and it's perfectly OK.
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October 30th, 2007 07:35 PM
You didn't say rather these were friends or just a "group" of people that got together.
I believe I would have left and told everyone why I was leaving. I have a large family and on holidays we get together and shoot. Some have only shot guns a few times. I amke sure everyone knows what and what not to do when I hand them a gun.
October 30th, 2007 07:59 PM
I ride motorcycles..have been for over 46 years...I ride by myself. I do not like to ride with those who I do not know. I have no idea of their skills and I do not need to be with those who have little or no skill that could endanger my life. I feel the same way abt shooting with strangers!
October 30th, 2007 08:13 PM
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I honestly think sometimes this is a necessary deal. Depends tho on the folks present and most importantly, whether you are at least in part - an ''official'' RSO.
I was going to yell cease fire and have a nice chat with everyone about safety
If the latter then I will call for all to go cold and go thru it all - and tough luck on those who are safe - they have to put up with the idiots being reminded.
My IDPA club is 100% strict. One muzzle sweep beyond the allowed 180 from firing point and it's ''goodbye ... go home!" As for gun handling elsewhere - that is only in designated safe areas - or else.
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October 30th, 2007 10:45 PM
I've said it befoore and have practiced it many times: learn to walk backwards and never miss an opportunity to leave. I do not want to be a gunshot victim and I do not want to be a witness if someone else is.
October 31st, 2007 09:03 AM
I would also have called a "cease fire" and laid it on the line. The people who are being safe are surely noticing the unsafe activities just as you are and will appreciate someone speaking up. You don't necessarily need to identify an individual, just state that there are unsafe practices going on, and it needs to stop NOW! If that doesn't work then I'd leave. It's not worth getting shot.
Originally Posted by P95Carry
October 31st, 2007 11:02 AM
Any time there are more than 2 shooting, first order of business should be to decide who is the RO official or unofficial. When family is out in the back fourty, I am the RO, period. When at the range with a group, I want to find out who is, first thing. I do agree with other posters the skeet crowd is probably the worst I am around for slinging a barrel everywhich direction.
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November 1st, 2007 01:29 PM
No RO as it was just friends and family with some colleagues added in. I love going to these events as they are a blast however, if I go next time I will lay down some rules.
November 1st, 2007 03:41 PM
Shout and swear if you must, and smack the offending muzzle up in the air. Embarrass the hell out of them. Make it a rule that all weapons are to be open when not on the line shooting. Or just don't go there. I don't use public ranges just because of stupid people.
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November 2nd, 2007 11:08 AM
Very good post. When you take care of this right up front, it is a lot lot lot lot less awkward to say something about unsafe behavior later -- everyone knows what to expect and who to expect it from, and most people are really grateful to know that someone will say something if anything is done dangerously.
Originally Posted by 1911M
Chances are, Harold, that there were other people there feeling just as unhappily awkward as you were, who would have welcomed it if you'd said something but who weren't brave enough to say it themselves.
Makes sense to me that establishing ground rules up front might prevent dangerous behavior in the first place, and definitely make it less awkward to say something about it if it does happen.
November 2nd, 2007 04:44 PM
I have been to a few ranges where someone's barrel has swept the crowd...I don't go back to those places. I now shoot at a 'safety always in mind first' range. There are about 450 members, more than half of them have their SRO cert...the range pushes that...
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