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    I'll be traveling to St. Louis from MI via Indy for a convention soon. Any advice for St. Louis carry? What are the restrictions and off-limits?
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    I traveled to St. Louis about a year ago, so please remember the laws might have changed since then. I was able to use my Oregon Concealed Handgun License while staying there. From what I understand, they should honor your license/permit.

    Here are some things to remember when traveling to St. Louis:

    • Don't carry on the public rail system or on the unsecured area of the airport because it isn't allowed. It costs a lot to not travel on the rail system... Even though it's public area, you still can't do it because it's approved & posted.


    • You need permission from the appropriate people to be able to carry in bars; I had to ask the hotel manager if I could carry when I went into bar section for schmoozing with the local businessmen. As long as I didn't order alcohol, they were okay with it.


    • Always conceal your handgun unless you want to get in trouble with the local ordinances, and I mean NEVER let a little piece of your pistol. Also, ALWAYS identify yourself to an officer if they talk to you and show them your identification if they request it. If you don't they might fine or arrest you. Memorize the phone number of your local county dispatch center if you can, so they can verify you since your out of state.


    • The gambling boats are off limits. I remember going to a riverboat casino and seeing a guy arrested for bringing a pistol.


    • Sport stadiums are pretty much off limits, so no baseball games.


    • The Arch is National land and your not allowed to carry. Your bags and person WILL be searched the second you step foot by the Rangers. I was patted down when I was about 750 feet from the arch, then when I went under I was patted down and had my property x-rayed.


    So basically, don't plan on having much fun with your license / permit when carrying. If you have to go to these places for business, don't carry.

    If you want more information, visit here: http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSH...es/SHP-863.pdf

    All in all, it was easy for me traveling to St. Louis. I hope you stay safe and have fun on your trip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanko View Post
    I traveled to St. Louis about a year ago, so please remember the laws might have changed since then. I was able to use my Oregon Concealed Handgun License while staying there. From what I understand, they should honor your license/permit.

    Here are some things to remember when traveling to St. Louis:

    • Don't carry on the public rail system or on the unsecured area of the airport because it isn't allowed. It costs a lot to not travel on the rail system... Even though it's public area, you still can't do it because it's approved & posted.
    True and its a hassle sometimes.


    • You need permission from the appropriate people to be able to carry in bars; I had to ask the hotel manager if I could carry when I went into bar section for schmoozing with the local businessmen. As long as I didn't order alcohol, they were okay with it.
    Also true but seems fairly easy going compared to some on here who speak about thir state laws.


    • Always conceal your handgun unless you want to get in trouble with the local ordinances, and I mean NEVER let a little piece of your pistol. Also, ALWAYS identify yourself to an officer if they talk to you and show them your identification if they request it. If you don't they might fine or arrest you. Memorize the phone number of your local county dispatch center if you can, so they can verify you since your out of state.

    Where did someone even come up with this stuff. For one thing if a piece of your weapon shows it will depend on what the police officer says. Just like anywhere else you might go. IDENTIFY YOURSELF!!!! This happens to be a state where you do not have to let the police know unless they ask. If the police ask then you need to do the right thing, just like anywhere else in the United States. And memorizing phone numbers is just crud. And a whole lot of it.


    • The gambling boats are off limits. I remember going to a riverboat casino and seeing a guy arrested for bringing a pistol.

    True, just like the rest of the United States. And I do not believe the guy being arrested for bringing his pistol. They would of just turned him around and told him to lock it up in his car.


    • Sport stadiums are pretty much off limits, so no baseball games.

    True, just like the rest of the United States.


    • The Arch is National land and your not allowed to carry. Your bags and person WILL be searched the second you step foot by the Rangers. I was patted down when I was about 750 feet from the arch, then when I went under I was patted down and had my property x-rayed.

    Give me a break!!!!!!!!! I have taken friends to the Arch hundreds of times and never been patted down at the door or before I even got to the door. One of the fun things to do is sit on the Arch steps and watch the river traffic. True though no weapons allowed on Arch grounds.


    So basically, don't plan on having much fun with your license / permit when carrying. If you have to go to these places for business, don't carry.

    If you want more information, visit here: http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSH...es/SHP-863.pdf

    All in all, it was easy for me traveling to St. Louis. I hope you stay safe and have fun on your trip!

    St. Louis has its problems but in all its a good city. Some areas you need to stay out of and others a must see. I lived here all my life and love this city even though I might be moving to the country soon. If you need help with my city, PM me.
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    Missouri has effectively no off-limits areas besides the federal ones. They list something like 17 off-limits areas then say that carrying in one of them shall not be a criminal offense but may subject the carrier to removal from the premises. Sounds like private property anywhere whether off-limits or not.

    Carry where you will, bars (don't drink) hospitals, sports venues, etc. Avoid metal detectors so you don't get tossed out. Don't carry in a public school. Since you're not authorized there, you'll run afoul of federal law. Keep your gun out of the arch because it's part of the national park system.

    Relax. Enjoy.
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    The only place I didn't CCW when I was there (on my FL permit) was the Arch. There I made a mistake, forgot a Kel Tec P32 mag in my pocket and had to make the walk of shame back to the parking garage, but no hassles. Carried everywhere else, including to a few places posted and a few restaurants that served alcohol, the Budweiser brewery, etc. No hassles. The phrase "concelaed means concealed" is so true in MO. Nobody saw it and nobody asked me to leave because of it.

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    Driving?

    If you're driving down from MI, though In. to St. Louis, watch yourself in Illinois. No carry there and you must unload and lock up gun and ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainPacker View Post
    Missouri has effectively no off-limits areas besides the federal ones. They list something like 17 off-limits areas then say that carrying in one of them shall not be a criminal offense but may subject the carrier to removal from the premises. Sounds like private property anywhere whether off-limits or not.

    Carry where you will, bars (don't drink) hospitals, sports venues, etc. Avoid metal detectors so you don't get tossed out. Don't carry in a public school. Since you're not authorized there, you'll run afoul of federal law. Keep your gun out of the arch because it's part of the national park system.

    Relax. Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saila22 View Post
    If you're driving down from MI, though In. to St. Louis, watch yourself in Illinois. No carry there and you must unload and lock up gun and ammo.
    Yeah, Michiganders are surrounded by states that do not recognize our carry permit. Dont even get me started on Canada. I travel to Indy quite a bit for business but still carry on the DL.
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