November 11th, 2007 10:42 AM
That Sounds A Bit Unusual To Me
To my mind, that sounds a bit extreme and counterproductive.
Originally Posted by Bonesnofoa
If that is one of your "unwritten law of CCW", I sure hope you also subscribe to the FIRST and FOREMOST and MOST IMPORTANT "unwritten law" of CCW:
Intimately know ANY and ALL of the WRITTEN laws of your residency state which govern CCW and the lawful exercise of self-defensive Lethal Force.
The truth of the matter is that in the vast majority of cases where civilians utilize a firearm for lawful self-defense, violent felony crime is deterred, controlled, prevented, merely by display and presentation of the firearm, without need of any actual shots fired at all.
Immediate problem immediately solved, and without need of anyone being hurt. That's the best outcome anyone could possibly hope for.
Of course, if the firearm has even cleared leather, presumably 100% legal justification for spilling blood already exists in your own mind and conscience. Thus,
if shots need be fired, they presumably, certainly will be. Your action had better be reasonable to the mind of your local Prosecutor, or else you will be facing a jury of 12 of your peers who will be conducting a preponderance of all pertinent evidence to determine if your action, in their opinion, was reasonable or not, and in compliance with the Law or not.
I do not disagree with your statement in the general sense, to the extent that you have already made the decision that you are capable and willing to exercise lethal force in self-defense if and when justifiable and warranted. And I do wholeheartedly agree that the first valid so-called "Victim's Right" is the right to not become a Victim of a violent criminal Predator in the first place - not for any reason whatsoever.
But your statement above clearly infers or implies your apparent (?) mindset or belief that if your gun clears leather in your hands, blood WILL be drawn.
Best be careful what you say in public forums.
If you are ever involved in a SD shooting, prosecutors can have their field day in court with your own statements, since they are admissable, prima facie evidence of the mindset you held and carried along with your gun when you strapped on that gun and walked out into the public domain.
Put another way, carry your "big stick" if you will, but sometimes it's Wise to both walk as well as talk softly . . . JMHO
"He who allows another to take his life, who hath no authority for that purpose, when it might be preserved by defense, is guilty of Self-Murder, for God hath enjoined him to seek the continuance of his Life, and Mother Nature teaches every creature to defend itself".
November 11th, 2007 11:27 AM
If you have to draw your weapon, make sure you have the will to use it.
"The fastest draw doesn't always win the gun fight, but the best shot does." (with thanks to Louis Lamour.)
Also while not mine but it gives you pause to think..."Make friends with everyone you meet, but have a plan to kill them."
“Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.” James Dean
Phil (NRA Member and Vietnam Vet)
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I gave them to the naked Pigmy's in New Guinea
November 11th, 2007 11:53 AM
That goes hand in hand with, "You can't MISS fast enough to win."
Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie
November 11th, 2007 12:24 PM
To help stay out of trouble and safe, remember to leave your ego inside your front door as you leave your house whenever you are going out armed.
"It does not do to leave a dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him."
J. R. R. Tolkien
November 11th, 2007 12:43 PM
Very true in both activities. I'm the most chicken pilot you'll probably ever meet. Flying scares me, but I love it anyway.
Originally Posted by SIXTO
RE: Sixtos' Location: They seem to be smarter than me. I still go out, but instead of hunting I call it "gun-hiking." To call it hunting would indicate that I ever got to shoot at something, but I can't find 'em.
November 11th, 2007 12:59 PM
Use your brain before your weapon.
fast is smooth.
be the first to call 911
November 11th, 2007 01:44 PM
always carry a reload.
always carry your cellphone.
always use common sense.
not necessarily in that order!
November 11th, 2007 02:40 PM
You probably are not as tough, fast, smart or mean as you think you are, and pray someone does not prove it to you.
Murphy resides in all things at all times. Prepare to head him off as well as you can.
Luck sometimes is the only difference between winning and losing.
I know, I know, you are smarter than me..just ask you..
November 11th, 2007 03:25 PM
thats a good one
Originally Posted by NDN-MAN
November 11th, 2007 05:32 PM
Always keep my spray handy, as it may allow me to neutralize a threat without firing my weapon.
While driving, have a gun immediately accessible. A drive can go from normal to carjacking in 1 second.
Never assume my next trip out of the house will be one in which I won't need a gun.
If the occassion is important enough for me to carry 1, it's important enough for me to carry 2.
Always carry at least 1 spare mag.
Forget about convenience--focus on survival.
Realize bad things happen to good people, and try to be prepared.
Realize of all the people who will be victimized today, few if any expected it to happen.
And one of my favorites, which I lifted from a member here but I cannot remember who it was (my apologies for not giving credit): If I have a gunfight forced upon me, I intend to win it.
November 11th, 2007 05:54 PM
Also applies to offshore sailors and motorcycle riders!
Originally Posted by LBrombach
Another observation I've made over the years was the most highly trained and skilled individuals. The most truly "dangerous" people in armed and unarmed arts were some of the most polite and easy going. Be careful of these folks if you really think you're tough!
If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. ~ Thomas J. Watson, Jr.
November 11th, 2007 06:20 PM
Everyone has given some really great advice.
My unwritten law is to control my actions. For me, this means not reacting in anger to situations such as aggressive drivers. Having manners, such as holding doors for people. Common courteousy seems to be a lost art. The list goes on and on, but the bottom line is to maintain control of my actions. My actions are the only actions that I can control.
We who carry handguns are under a magnifying glass. Nothing would make the media happier than to publicize the shortfall of a legally carrying citizen.
Be the standard for conduct and leave the media completely disappointed.
November 11th, 2007 06:21 PM
I read this long time ago and I use it as my "mantra" when I carry:
I live a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence and de-escalation.
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
November 11th, 2007 06:58 PM
Some of the thing that I was told before I started carrying and I live by are:
When Carrying Butter better not melt in your mouth. (Temper check)
Don't carry unless you are willing to break leather;
Don't break leather unless you are justified and willing to shoot;
Don't shoot unless you are justified and willing to kill.
Shoot enough to stop the threat and no more.
"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
-James Earl Jones
November 11th, 2007 07:46 PM
You crack me up Z!
Originally Posted by SleepingZ
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
"A superior Operator is best defined as someone who uses his superior
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