ccw and train travel

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    ccw and train travel

    Just a thought.
    I will be going on a train trip in a few months, as a vacation. I haven't looked at the rules and regs, but has anyone traveled on the rails with their piece in hidden comfort ?
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    Amtrak

    You can forget traveling Amtrak. It is my understanding that they are gun unfriendly.

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    You might want to bring a gps so you know when you travel into a gun unfriendly state.
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    If you travel through Georgia, it is a felony.

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    IIRC carry is prohibited on AMTRAK trains. And for those that are not aware, AMTRAK has their own police force, and they do work plain clothes. I don't remember all of the particulars, but AMTRAK is federally owned and operated and aside from the possible federal entanglements (are the right of ways federal land?) a lot of states have some little known and sometimes amusing laws relating to railroads and their agents.
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    I too have been told, although I haven't seen the law/regulation myself, that carrying on Amtrak is strictly prohibited.

    MCP, I wasn't aware that Amtrak had plain clothes LEO's. Thanks for the heads up.
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    From their web page:
    Prohibited Items

    The following kinds of items are prohibited as both checked and carry-on baggage:

    Any type of gun, firearm, ammunition, explosives, or weapon.
    Incendiaries, including flammable gases, liquids and fuels.
    Large, sharp objects such as axes, ice picks and swords.

    And,
    Governing Law


    All travel on, and transactions with, Amtrak is governed by the laws of the District of Columbia, United States of America, without regards to its principles of conflicts of law. You agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of any State or Federal court located in the District of Columbia, United States of America, and waive any jurisdictional, venue or inconvenient forum objections to such courts.

    There you have it.
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    it's sort of amazing.
    You can fly with a gun if you jump through the hoops, but a train is an absolute no no.

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    Thanks for the thread. I had no idea I was stepping into another world when I stepped onto a train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirForceShooter View Post
    it's sort of amazing.
    You can fly with a gun if you jump through the hoops, but a train is an absolute no no.

    AFS
    I've heard that their reasoning for this (as far as checked bags go) is it is possible to access the baggage car a lot eaiser then it is the baggage compartment of an airplane.
    Though I agree that regs like this are just dumb..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    From their web page:
    Prohibited Items

    The following kinds of items are prohibited as both checked and carry-on baggage:

    Any type of gun, firearm, ammunition, explosives, or weapon.
    Incendiaries, including flammable gases, liquids and fuels.
    Large, sharp objects such as axes, ice picks and swords.
    So a short/small ice pick would be ok then?

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    It's another stupid reg, but you can't do it.
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    Large, sharp objects such as axes, ice picks and swords.
    I was actually thinking about the fact that prohibited items are large AND sharp. So theoretically you could bring aboard a completely dull sword (or axes, or ice pick) and be perfectly fine. I don't notice a regulation against carrying sharpening stones...

    Seriously, who do they think they are doing a favor? Their insurance premiums, I guess. It's much the same as school zone disarmament. So what if you remove the guns? If I kill someone with a butter knife through the eye, or strangle them with a shoelace (and most everyone has those!) does that make them any less dead?

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    Here's why

    Quote Originally Posted by AirForceShooter View Post
    it's sort of amazing.
    You can fly with a gun if you jump through the hoops, but a train is an absolute no no.

    AFS

    Here's why.

    1) It would be easy to "hijack" a train and drive it into an apartment building.

    2) The passengers can jump off and hurt themselves if you turn out to be an armed robber.

    3) If everyone carried, it would add appreciable weight to the load on the engines.

    4) You can't have a gun in a national park or at a national monument.

    5) "The City of St. Louis" is a high crime district.

    This, and needing ID to board a train are among the many moronic things brought to us all by well intentioned fools.

    Why do you need ID to board a train?


    1) It would be easy to "hijack" a train and drive it into an apartment building.

    2) The management wants to know who's sleeping in their beds.

    Oops, that's hotels. You all get the idea :)

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    bummer, I used to like train travel while I was in the Corps. Much more comfortable than flying and riding a bus, if you have the time to spare.

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