What do you think?
This is a discussion on What do you think? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Today I was talking to my German coworkers about my CCW license which I brought with me from America. They showed puzzlement at my explanation ...
November 13th, 2007 11:07 AM
November 13th, 2007 11:13 AM
Becuase ultimately each state is in charge of it's respective gunlaws for a reason, to be able to keep the "Feds" from messing with firearms rights. "They" have already messed with our rights enough.
As it stands right now, each state can pass it's own laws regarding carrying a concealed weapon.
Enabling a federal mandate that all CCWs are vaild nation wide, would IMHO give the Federal Government a small foot hold on those laws.
The only way to force states with strciter laws IE. CA, IL, DC, and WI to accept a nation wide CCW would have to come from the Federal Government.
Just think about the Federal Governmet being able to limit CCW....especially pending on who's in office down the road
**Edited to add. If there was a seperate system that was federal only and not intefeering with states laws, so where they only had control of a "Nation Wide CCW" that you would have to apply for and have some level of training (Not becuase I think it's 100% needed, but to appease the states with that requirement...I might be ok with that. But I don't think IL and WI would go along. And further more, would a nationwide CCW be valid in places like NYC?
Would local governments be able to override it?
November 13th, 2007 11:38 AM
I think all states should have to honor other just like a driver's license.
Les Baer 45
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November 13th, 2007 11:57 AM
although it would be nice to have it honored in all 50 states,
i also dont like the idea of the Feds having too much control b/c it usually is a bad thing not a good thing. I think if they were in charge of who was allowed to carry and where we would be worse off, not better.
We have somewhat of a separation of state and federal governments for a reason.
November 13th, 2007 02:05 PM
If the law were written like the Peaceable Journey law or LEOSA, local governments couldn't override it. Just like State governments can preempt local laws on firearms, the Federal government can preempt State laws. As for NYC, NY State does NOT preempt local firearms laws (although they could), so NYC and some of the counties on Long Island have stricter laws than NY State.
Originally Posted by JD
Clinging to guns and God in PA...
November 13th, 2007 02:36 PM
IF Being the key word...
Originally Posted by rmarkob
If it was proposed and so written I'd be all for it, but somehow I just don't see it working like that. I'm usually not a pessimist, but on this one I just don't see it working out like that.
I would LOVE to be proved wrong.
November 13th, 2007 03:59 PM
I agree. The Fed's for the most part have stayed out of the DL issues and they could do the same for a "Carrying License."
Originally Posted by Supertac45
Lex et Libertas — Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus, et Fidelis!
"Not only do the people who put their lives on the line to protect the rest of us deserve better, we all deserve better than to have our own security undermined by those who undermine law enforcement." -Thomas Sowell
November 13th, 2007 05:46 PM
If state A wanted to make a law that anyone not a resident of state A had to get a state A driver's license, who's to stop them? The federal government? I should hope not. The Federal government doesn't have much business messing with anything. The Federal government is what makes this country too close for comfort to being socialist. .....JMO
November 13th, 2007 06:12 PM
The first thing I think about is Nancy Pelosi would be in charge of writing the Fed CCW legislation
I'll stick to my FL legislature
November 13th, 2007 06:18 PM
If only there were a federal law, or even an amendment to the Constitution, that forbade federal, state, and local governments from - oh, what's the word... INFRINGING... on our right to keep and bear arms.
One can always hope.
November 13th, 2007 09:51 PM
We are (or should be) what our name implies - a group of united states. The main reason a federal government exists is to promote a common defense - you attack Florida, you attack us all. That, and a common currency instead of fifty different types of dollars.
Unfortunately, the states have given up an increasing number of their powers. As long as states have sovernty, you can pick one to live in that closest fits your beliefs.
I would hate to see my carry permit at the mercy of the likes of Ted Kennedy.