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    What do you think?

    Today I was talking to my German coworkers about my CCW license which I brought with me from America. They showed puzzlement at my explanation that it is not good in every state. This got me to thinking: Why isn't there a federal CCW? I do remember getting my fingerprints done, FBI background check and the whole nine yards, why should this be like it is? Why is it not possible? Would it not be easier just to say "Hey, this license is good all over America" just like our driver's licenses?

    that was my thought of the day and I wanted to share that with you guys
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    Becuase ultimately each state is in charge of it's respective gunlaws for a reason, to be able to keep the "Feds" from messing with firearms rights. "They" have already messed with our rights enough.

    As it stands right now, each state can pass it's own laws regarding carrying a concealed weapon.

    Enabling a federal mandate that all CCWs are vaild nation wide, would IMHO give the Federal Government a small foot hold on those laws.

    The only way to force states with strciter laws IE. CA, IL, DC, and WI to accept a nation wide CCW would have to come from the Federal Government.

    Just think about the Federal Governmet being able to limit CCW....especially pending on who's in office down the road

    **Edited to add. If there was a seperate system that was federal only and not intefeering with states laws, so where they only had control of a "Nation Wide CCW" that you would have to apply for and have some level of training (Not becuase I think it's 100% needed, but to appease the states with that requirement...I might be ok with that. But I don't think IL and WI would go along. And further more, would a nationwide CCW be valid in places like NYC?

    Would local governments be able to override it?

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    I think all states should have to honor other just like a driver's license.
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    although it would be nice to have it honored in all 50 states,
    i also dont like the idea of the Feds having too much control b/c it usually is a bad thing not a good thing. I think if they were in charge of who was allowed to carry and where we would be worse off, not better.
    We have somewhat of a separation of state and federal governments for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    **Edited to add. If there was a seperate system that was federal only and not intefeering with states laws, so where they only had control of a "Nation Wide CCW" that you would have to apply for and have some level of training (Not becuase I think it's 100% needed, but to appease the states with that requirement...I might be ok with that. But I don't think IL and WI would go along. And further more, would a nationwide CCW be valid in places like NYC?

    Would local governments be able to override it?
    If the law were written like the Peaceable Journey law or LEOSA, local governments couldn't override it. Just like State governments can preempt local laws on firearms, the Federal government can preempt State laws. As for NYC, NY State does NOT preempt local firearms laws (although they could), so NYC and some of the counties on Long Island have stricter laws than NY State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmarkob View Post
    If the law were written like the Peaceable Journey law or LEOSA, local governments couldn't override it. Just like State governments can preempt local laws on firearms, the Federal government can preempt State laws. As for NYC, NY State does NOT preempt local firearms laws (although they could), so NYC and some of the counties on Long Island have stricter laws than NY State.
    IF Being the key word...

    If it was proposed and so written I'd be all for it, but somehow I just don't see it working like that. I'm usually not a pessimist, but on this one I just don't see it working out like that.

    I would LOVE to be proved wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertac45 View Post
    I think all states should have to honor other just like a driver's license.
    I agree. The Fed's for the most part have stayed out of the DL issues and they could do the same for a "Carrying License."
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    If state A wanted to make a law that anyone not a resident of state A had to get a state A driver's license, who's to stop them? The federal government? I should hope not. The Federal government doesn't have much business messing with anything. The Federal government is what makes this country too close for comfort to being socialist. .....JMO

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    The first thing I think about is Nancy Pelosi would be in charge of writing the Fed CCW legislation

    I'll stick to my FL legislature

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    If only there were a federal law, or even an amendment to the Constitution, that forbade federal, state, and local governments from - oh, what's the word... INFRINGING... on our right to keep and bear arms.

    One can always hope.

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    We are (or should be) what our name implies - a group of united states. The main reason a federal government exists is to promote a common defense - you attack Florida, you attack us all. That, and a common currency instead of fifty different types of dollars.

    Unfortunately, the states have given up an increasing number of their powers. As long as states have sovernty, you can pick one to live in that closest fits your beliefs.

    I would hate to see my carry permit at the mercy of the likes of Ted Kennedy.

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