Some of my more anti-friends are becoming more "accepting"

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    "my friends that use to razz me if I was carrying at "safe places" have started changing their tune."

    What is a safe place and how do I know that is the only place I will be during the day? That is why I carry all the time. I just don't always know where I might end up or worse yet where the bad guy might end up. Glad to hear some of your friends may be seeing the light.
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    I'm a student at VT too- I like how all of their alert emails end with the statement "The community is urged to utilize all personal safety measures." (emphasis added)

    I should write the police and ask them if they consider firearms to be one of those safety measures.

    And IMO, I still think Blacksburg is a pretty safe place. On campus, people actually use their laptops to save seats in the dining halls- I haven't seen that kind of trust in many other universities. However, the surrounding community is pretty low SES, and EVERY town has its criminal element... It also doesn't help that a lot of students here walk around with their head in the clouds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirForceShooter View Post
    I've never really understood CCW holders that hide the fact.
    I've never really understood those that classify CCW holders as "one of those types." And yet, it happens far more frequently than not. I think there are signs that folks are improving, but there are also a lot of knee-jerk, boot-on-the-neck type reactions to those who carry weapons. Basically, I treat it like anything else, such as being Lutheran, or having a Honda, or preferring chicken over fish. It's simply one more piece of irrelevant trivia. Trouble is, the vast majority of folks treat such knowledge of CHL status as a truly big deal, possibly the worst info they've heard this week, and possibly worth calling the police about. Go figure.
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    For the couple of posters who think if you carry you shouldn't be afraid to tell I think they should look up the meaning of 'concealed'. They should also take heed of the WW II saying, "loose lips sink ships".

    That "ship" that gets sunk might just be the person who was carrying because someone with a big mouth opened it at the wrong time and in the wrong place. It might even be them because someone took a shot at the person who was carrying and missed.

    When I start carrying again, legally this time, there will be very few people who will know. Primarily because I think of it from a security point-of-view, you don't have a "need to know" unless I think it is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoytshooter View Post
    For the couple of posters who think if you carry you shouldn't be afraid to tell I think they should look up the meaning of 'concealed'. They should also take heed of the WW II saying, "loose lips sink ships".

    That "ship" that gets sunk might just be the person who was carrying because someone with a big mouth opened it at the wrong time and in the wrong place. It might even be them because someone took a shot at the person who was carrying and missed.

    When I start carrying again, legally this time, there will be very few people who will know. Primarily because I think of it from a security point-of-view, you don't have a "need to know" unless I think it is necessary.
    While I certainly understand your position, there are a fair number of people who have no idea it is legal to carry or have no concept of self-protection.

    It would seem to be doing them a disservice to not explain self-protection up to and including CCW. If someone asks if I have a CCW license, and will answer yes (assuming the person is genuinely interested and this is more than a casual conversation). I won't elaborate as to if I carry and when.

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    carry on my son

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    I would ask anyone who questions you if they keep fire extinguishers in their house or vehicle. If they say no, "Why not?" If they say yes, "What for."

    They get to see the point through their own eyes.

    BTW - If someone answers no and doesn't say, "but I should," I wouldn't waste the breath. Otherwise, it is a good opportunity to get folks to drop their inhibitions and loosen their paradigm a little. They might just learn a thing or two during your ensuing dialogue.

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    What I said was I don't hide the fact I have a CCW.
    I never tell someone if I am carrying.
    They're 2 very different things

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    Tenacious,

    Sadly lots of folks do not keep fire extinguishers or fire blankets or fire hoods or a fire ladder in their home. Lots don't even still to this day keep working fire & smoke or CO detectors in their home. I know, nuts.
    Rather than those in specific I use the idea of seatblets and/or airbags in ones car as it's pretty much a given that people will have these installed and even direct experience with their application.

    To me CCW is same as driving the streets with your seatbelt on, airbags installed, ABS functioning, and in the winter in moderate to heavy snow zones having snow tires onboard. You hope to God you never need to use any of them but as we all know hoping and/or ignoring that bad things don't happen doesn't work for a large number of real world people. Crime is same as car accidents, snow, and fire too. It happens most often with little to no warning and nobody wakes up thinking hey today I'm going to get in a wreck/caught out in snow/burned in a fire/victimized by a criminal(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirForceShooter View Post
    What I said was I don't hide the fact I have a CCW.
    I never tell someone if I am carrying.
    They're 2 very different things

    AFS
    I think that is an excellent way of putting it and a valid distinction. I also like the previous comment about it being irrelevant personal trivia. This happened a few years back, well maybe a decade or so ago, folks I had known for years never knew I carried until one night a drunk cold cocked me in front of a bar. I mean sucker punched me a dropped me. I jumped up stepped back grabbed my gun & knife slipped them to my wife as I moved her away and than proceeded to stomp the crap out of the drunk, after he started to come at me for seconds. Most never even saw me pass off the gun, my wife was ready or at least responded correctly. Later that evening it came up as those that saw asked if I passed a gun to my wife. I don't lie. Gave me a chance to discuss responsible carry and my obligations. As to why I did not draw down on the guy. I explained I was not in fear of my life or serious injury. That my wife did have the gun so my back was covered in case it did get out of hand and say he got me down and started to put the boots to me or pulled knife. It helped them see we are not all wackos looking to do harm. In that case it was unavoidable but as a whole I do not tell people I carry, just as I don't tell them what color underwear I have on. On the other hand most anyone that knows me very well knows I am pro second Amendment.
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    My friends don't know that I carry. I will probably be getting a compact for the my Spring attire.
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