Which Gun Owner Are You?

Which Gun Owner Are You?

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    Which Gun Owner Are You?

    Twenty years ago I took a class in the legal aspects of self defense at the old Queens Village Rifle & Pistol Club.
    The instructor was Frankie Demarrio, who was a NYPD firearms instructor at Rodman's Neck.
    Frank stated that there are three types of gun owners in the world.

    1) Has a gun but could never, ever, under any conditions, take a human life.

    2) Has a gun and is looking for a legal excuse to use it and not be charged. ( A la Bernnie Getz)

    3) Has a gun and is willing use it in the defense of himself or others, but only if no other option exists.

    Franks advice to #1 was to get rid of the gun.
    If not willing to do that then get a very realistic toy gun.

    To #2 Frank's advice was to get yourself a very good lawyer and a large jar of vaseline, because sooner or later you will need at least one and probably the other.

    As to #3 Frank just smiled and said to relax.
    If you do shoot you will most likely follow the law wheiter you know it or not.

    Sound advice, IMHO.
    Another good tidbit that I picked up in my younger days was that if you have a doubt--or if you find yourself thinking if your current situation demands deadly force--then you probably should not be shooting.
    I believe the exact words were, "If in doubt, then doubt!!"
    This alone was in my mind and convinced me not to pull the trigger in several situations.
    So..who are you?
    #1?
    #2?
    Or #3?


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    I'm #3. I'm not looking to shoot anyone but I'm willing to do what is necessary to protect myself and those I love.
    "I play for keeps."

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    Cool

    Ditto....#3 will only use deadly force to protect me and mine, and have a good presence of mind and judgement.
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    My gun is my third level of response to a threat. If I ever have to use it, the situation would have to be grave. I hope it never gets that far.

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    I think that every one will say they are #3... I’m sure there are some #1 and 2's but they don’t realize it.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I think that every one will say they are #3... Iím sure there are some #2's but they donít realize it.
    I hope you are correct but some responses ( on other forums) on that Texas incident leads me to believe otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Temkin View Post
    I hope you are correct but some responses ( on other forums) on that Texas incident leads me to believe otherwise.
    I'm not sure what your talking about... What TX incident?
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I'm not sure what your talking about... What TX incident?
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f3d_1195171937

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    I'm #4. I saw Dirty Harry and I thought "Hey I can do that!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Temkin View Post
    Oh OK, I remember reading about that.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    #3.

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    Ditto Sixto. We'll all probably say #3, but without skill and mindset, some may temporarily revert to #1 come showtime. Would they then become zeros?
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    ("Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.")
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    I'm #3.
    I know a fair amount of #1s including a gentleman I had dinner with tonight to which nearly this exact same subject came up and he mentioned he's getting a CHL in TN but cannot ever picture "using it".
    As to #2 there are a fair amount of persons in that camp here and at other gunfu sites as based on positions and responses posted in threads all over.

    - Janq
    "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy

    "A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing

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    Been there done it 2 times...had other marginal opportunities/experiences.
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    Newer testament... Kill or Get Killed 1976/1987
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    #3 of course.

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