Role Reversal

Role Reversal

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    Role Reversal

    My wife and I were coming home from dinner and she asked to stop by a pharmacy. I dropped her off at the door, parked the car, and entered the store. She thought I would wait in the car, but it was dark and I wanted to walk with her from the store back to the car. Well the reason she was in there was to buy a birthday card for me, so she didn't want me hanging around, so I waited outside for her to exit. As I stood there in Condition Yellow, minding my business, another lady came out of the store and saw me standing there. I could tell that she went to Condition Orange when she saw me as she suddenly changed course to put some distance between us. I was kind of embarassed to have made her feel threatened, but understood her reaction. It felt strange to be on the opposite side of a situation that I prepare myself to defend against.


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    lady came out of the store and saw me standing there. I could tell that she went to Condition Orange when she saw me
    Haha - good for her Guess the boot was somewhat on the other foot but good to know someone else is alert. Way too many drift around on a cloud of con white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jofrdo View Post
    As I stood there in Condition Yellow, minding my business, another lady came out of the store and saw me standing there. I could tell that she went to Condition Orange when she saw me as she suddenly changed course to put some distance between us. I was kind of embarassed to have made her feel threatened ...
    Had that happen to me, a couple times. What I have done is to raise a hand, smile and nod. The combination of those seems to be rapidly seen as a non-threatening gesture. Can't fix the situation, though, as my being there with my "radar" turned on is where I need to be.

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    I'm always very offended when women do that. If I'm walking the same direction as a women at night they _always_ visibly tense up and start walking faster. Well not always, it seems to be only the completely unattractive and often large ones that look the most worried as if they're at great risk. I'm 6'4" and I naturally walk fast so it seems like I'm trying to overtake them when I'm not :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elotemuygrande View Post
    I'm always very offended when women do that. If I'm walking the same direction as a women at night they _always_ visibly tense up and start walking faster. Well not always, it seems to be only the completely unattractive and often large ones that look the most worried as if they're at great risk. I'm 6'4" and I naturally walk fast so it seems like I'm trying to overtake them when I'm not :)
    So the pretty ones don't run away from you. And the problem is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKelly View Post
    So the pretty ones don't run away from you. And the problem is?
    haha maybe I need to work on my tactics in those situations

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    Other peoples' reaction to my condition yellow are of no concern to me.

    Today my wife wanted to take our daughter to a local kids "boutique" for some cookies and storytelling. I went along because I knew this place would be virtually devoid of men and a bunch of women and kids in a store on a quite Sunday afternoon might make for an easy target.

    Sure enough, only one other dad showed and he was in total condition white. I'm pretty sure I was the only one armed and in C-Y there today. Some of the moms there would look at me strange because I was regularly scanning the room and focusing on the door. I don't care. I went to make sure my wife and daughter were protected. Not to make the other women (sheep) feel comfortable.

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    Happens to me too. I shave my head so naturally I'm stereotyped!

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    I've had that happen to me. All the more reason for someone like her, or anyone, to carry a firearm... not that I was a threat, but she didn't know that.

    I wish my wife was as alert as the lady you mentioned. My wife lives in condition white most of the time. Maybe my condition orange, er, yellow helps to balance it out, but only when we're together. She's pretty defenseless when she's alone. Hence my super-duper alarm system, but that can't protect her everywhere she goes, or even all the time at home.

    I don't get how some people can watch the same news I watch, yet still think life is always safe no matter where they go? Oh, now I remember... it always happens to other people.

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    I've noticed a huge difference once I've changed my appearance... I used to look like the typical ex military LEO type, clean cut short hair always dressed decent etc.
    Now, I look like I belong in a rock band and shave maybe every other week. Most people avoid me like a plague now if they dont know me. (I dont blame them )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    Happens to me too. I shave my head so naturally I'm stereotyped!

    If only those ladies knew what a lover I am, armed and cuddly!
    I love that!
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    I certainly do not blame or fault any female for being alert or displaying obviously signs of being alert when they are going about their daily or nightly business.
    Females are often targeted by males for various reasons and historically many of those reasons are not good.

    I also walk at a really brisk natural pace and unless I am in a hurry I usually fall back out of polite consideration so I don't appear to be overtaking a female that is walking alone ahead of me.
    Especially after dark. I sure don't like it if an unknown is walking up behind me at a fast pace and if I was female I'd have valid reasons to like it even less.
    If I'm walking with my dog then that usually makes everything OK.

    No female can look at my amazing but funny looking dog (with the home haircut) and then think that I am a dangerous guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe R View Post
    Some of the moms there would look at me strange because I was regularly scanning the room and focusing on the door. I don't care. I went to make sure my wife and daughter were protected. Not to make the other women (sheep) feel comfortable.
    Well, if they were all walking around in condition white, they probably just thought you were trying to find a friend of yours or something like that. If anyone was even slightly alarmed when they saw you, you probably did them a favor by bumping them up to condition yellow for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elotemuygrande View Post
    ...it seems to be only the completely unattractive and often large ones that look the most worried as if they're at great risk.
    It's because the cute ones have an escort or two...

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