This is a discussion on Arrggghhhh!!! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; The wife turned in her CCW application to the local PD about 3.5 weeks ago. We were wondering what was taking so long for them ...
December 8th, 2007 09:21 PM
The wife turned in her CCW application to the local PD about 3.5 weeks ago. We were wondering what was taking so long for them to process the appl. since mine only took two weeks. We figured that Thanksgiving holidays probably slowed things down a bit.
Today she gets the mail and finds a letter from the PD secretary stating that her FBI fingerprint card was unreadable.
So now she has to get re-printed on Monday and start the clock all over again.
Technically CT is a 'may-issue' state, but in reality it is shall issue. State law requires that your application be processed and a decision made within 8 weeks, of submittal. If it is going to take longer then they have to inform you in writing the reason for the delay. An applicant can only be denied for legal reasons (previous felonies, mental health issues, etc).
Anyhow, I would have thought that the prints would have been a formality since she is a veteran and her prints are on file somewhere.
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December 8th, 2007 09:29 PM
Seems to me prints done once don't count! Most annoying she has this delay.
I did the (ink) prints card at my local SO to send to get my FL non-res ........ so they were done and on file.
Later than that tho, at vast expense - I had to drive to Pittsburgh and back to get an INS electronic prints scan done prior to achieving my citizenship. 250 mile round trip - $70 for the ''process'' which took less than 20 minutes - $5 for parking that short time ... add up all my costs, gas and time etc and the deal was probably taking $150 out of my pocket!
Hopefully I will not have to ever get them done again - tho would hardly be surprised!
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December 8th, 2007 09:37 PM
She will get it,I know,its a pain in the keyster.I had to redo mine also even though I was in the service and two separate security jobs.They wouldn't have any problem finding me if they were looking.Go with the flow and don't let it get to you,it will be worth it in the long run.Hang in there. sj
December 8th, 2007 09:37 PM
I like the electronic prints. I have to do prints every couple of years for one reason or another and I'd never had the electronic ones done until this year. Normally I have to have two or three cards made to get a good set because one of my fingers was smashed years ago and is hard to get a good print of it. The electronic print reader had no problem. BIG improvement.
December 8th, 2007 09:38 PM
My wife's prints
FYI - When my wife was printed for her CCW, the deputy said they often had problems with women's prints being smudged.
She said it is because women work so much with their hands: scrubbing, harsh chemicals, etc.
They passed her but the deputy was correct; my wife's prints showed hardly any ridges at all.
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December 8th, 2007 11:49 PM
I've almost gotta call BS on that one. I am a Diesel Technician and you want to talk about working with your hands, and chemicals...Parts washer, brake clean, starting fluid, hand cleaners, antifreeze, fuel, gas, hydraulic oil, fuel additives (biocide is naaaaasty stuff), never mind the burns, cuts and other fun finger eaters.
Originally Posted by DrXD
December 8th, 2007 11:51 PM
I believe Ohio uses the electronic prints exclusively for the CHL application process. It was the first time I have gotten fingerprinted, and hopefully the last, and it was easier than I imagined.
December 9th, 2007 01:07 AM
I know it took me 90 days to get mine, but from what i hear it varies.
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December 9th, 2007 01:57 AM
When I renewed my permit they re finger printed me. Apparently already being on file isn't enough.
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December 9th, 2007 02:44 AM
I believe they reprint you at renewal here too, so that's every four years.
No big deal, they were scanned digitally and it only took about 2 minutes.
It does make me wonder why they have to redo them everytime though?
December 9th, 2007 03:14 AM
I'd like to be more sympathetic, but I am too busy being amazed that you can get the process done that quickly. Here in Oklahoma they have 90 days to issue the permit- but in reality that should be looked at more as the minimum time it will take- with no problems.
I had to have my prints done three times. The third time they did them electronically. There is the plus that the computer tells you right away if the print is good enough. But there was a problem that my left little finger has been broken a few times and they simply couldn't get it to print well. The FBI and OSBI both ended up accepting it though, so I guess they got it good enough.
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December 9th, 2007 04:30 AM
The fingerprint process here in my county in CA is to have the person put their fingers on glass and have them scanned into the machine. FWIW - my wife had the same problem, but was remedied right there so no need for a second try.
December 9th, 2007 06:53 AM
My wife and I were scanned electronically on different days. She had no problems, but when I did mine, the scanner could not get a full reading. The tech asked me to wash my hands very thoroughly to get any debris off. I, then told her that I had just come in from shooting 300 rounds in my pistol. She said gunpowder residue will mess up the scan.
December 9th, 2007 08:34 AM
Your prints can change drastically from injury. Severe burn, cuts and so on.
Originally Posted by MarkG27
I have two fingers that have been scarred from deep cuts. The Dr. that did the needle point did not get the tissue lined up perfect, and now the ridges do not meet - same thing with a skin graft. That can be enough that a scan of a national database will not show a match.
In retrospect, that would be a pain in the butt to get skin from a convicted felon organ donor, or worse, someone who did something verrrrry bad and did not get caught.
December 9th, 2007 10:15 AM
Hummmmm, no prints required in Alabama - just your drivers license, fill out a form and in about 20 min's (and 20 dollars) later you stand in front of the camera, get your pic taken and handed a warm laminated permit.
Unless of course in their check they find something and send a deputy to pick you up.
I asked at the counter if they actually ever had anyone show up for a pistol permit that was escorted out (arrested) and they said believe it or not it does happen. Usually it's an old no-show warrant for a past traffic offense.
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