Tonight by pure chance alone my wife and I got into a discussion toward CCW.
This is rare as we do not agree at all on this subject and as such at this stage it's just not generally discussed.
Tonight was different though as she wanted to talk to me about how I took my sisters husband to the range this weekend and in the process educated him on the 2nd amendment, firearms, and self defense as being the most basic of human rights.
Several words were stated and then she said to me;
"Why do you carry everywhere we go?!!...When has there been a time when the GG with a gun has worked out?!! What if the other person has a gun!"
With that I turned to my laptop (we were in my home office) and I went to ABCNews.com and said to her; "Yesterday".
She seeing all the text on the screen replied I don't want to read all that.
Five minutes later unbeknownst to me prior there is an interview of Ms. Assam who stopped the shooter in Colorado Springs on CNN along with the church pastor. My TV just happened to be on and it was set to CNN because that's what I listen to during the day while working. That or XM radio.
So anyway we both went quiet listening to the lady talk and the pastor explain how if she wasn't there then the possibility for far more people would have been injured if not killed.
We talked for another hour and even after that she remains a staunch unbeliever.
She feels the "odds" are so long toward being victimized by crime that its not worth it to be concerned about, and thus she doesn't.
Long odds amongst our community, the state we live in, and the country overall. Her words not mine.
I replied well what about the people who by bad luck happen to fall outside those odds that are left to hold the bag?
What do you say to them the injured, those who are maimed for a lifetime, or the families of those who happen to die?
Her response; The odds for most people at most places are not high.
Not high enough to "worry" about.
I've known my wife 15 yrs. now.
She's a nice lady.
I believe she is a good representation of what many regular Americans are thinking and feeling.
It's not going to happen to them.
What are the odds?
If it does happen well then it was your time.
Folks who "worry" about as much and who, like her husband, keep and carry guns are paranoid or silly or have the same 'odds' as anyone else who is not armed. Guns are bad and bad/crazy people who use them are worst.
After tonights conversation I am now convinced that the saying "Guns don't hurt people, people do" will never work.
I am now also convinced that showing people of this mindset facts, figures, statements of 'odds' from any source no matter how esteemed the compiler might be, statements of real world events happening to real world shiny bright persons (as opposed to dirty faced and/or those from the 'inner city')...and by me ~ 15yrs. of discussion will not overcome their own thinking.
It's kind of like that old saying; "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink".
I don't know much of anything about horses. I'm from the 'inner city'.
If I'd been shot or victimized by crime would likely have been by my wife looked at and shrugged off as being as an unfortunate dirty faced person who fell outside the odds.
Had I been an otherwise perceived to be shiny bright person then I'd be just another poor soul who fell outside the odds. Wrong place, wrong time. Too bad for me. Strange how I fell outside the odds.
Click...turn the channel to 'What Not to Wear' starring Stacy & Clinton
Until something bad happens directly to these individual persons they then will _maybe_ have a change of heart.
At then I'd bet Jimmy The Greek would place odds at 50/50.
They could either think to themselves hey damn if I had some means to defend and protect myself then maybe I'd have not been victimized.
Or they could fall to criminals and crime sucks and those darn guns they are all over the place and if it weren't for the bad guns and the even badder criminals then me/mine would not have been victimized.
It's all about the odds.
As a matter of fact toward odds for those still reading this post here they are which my wife asked I send to her and to be honest I'm not sure I'm going to do as the odds are great the effort will be a waste of time...
* Total crime victims (most recent) by country - 21.1% (#15)
Data source: UNICRI (United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute). 2002. Correspondence on data on crime victims. March. Turin
* Rate per 100K per inhabitants | 469.2 per 100,000 inhabitants
Data source: Data Source: 2005 FBI Report of Offenses Known to Law Enforcement | http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html
Note: the 2006 UCR reports are not yet complete toward reporting.
* Violent crime (per capita) (most recent) by state - 0.46 per 100 people
Source - Bureau of Justice Statistics | http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/dataonl...ystatelist.cfm
* All Violent Crime [My specific town in MA which is where my wife grew age 2 through college] - Is 0.54 times the National Average
Data Source: 2003 FBI Report of Offenses Known to Law Enforcement | http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/01cius.htm followed by http://www.fbi.gov/filelink.html?fil...xl/01tbl08.xls