Jeanne Assam's Performance in Colorado Church Shooting: MERGED

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    With the exception of the unfortunate death of the two young girls and their father in the hospital, another good ending for the slime ball thug. I think it's time to discuss this with the senior minister as we have over 3000 in attendance at our church.
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    Lets all send this lady a Christmas card! Way to Go!!!

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    Our church has a volunteer security detail with enough volunteers that our duty only comes around about once every 2 months. We pull Sunday morning, Sunday evening and Wednesday evenings as a two person team. We even have a golf cart to ride around the parking lots. They have never mentioned anything about CCW. I always carry and our church has no signs saying we cannot and Oklahoma law does not prevent it. I don't know how many other volunteers carry but I assume several do. I don't know if making a big deal out of it is the right thing to do or by not saying anything about it perhaps it makes our liability a bit less. The day our church decides we cannot carry at the church I'll be hunting for a different church. I've carried my handgun there since I got my CCW back in the 1990s. On Edit I forgot to say good job Jeanee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by accordioncowboy View Post
    Regardless, Jeanne Assam's performance is a testament to the power to save lives using a concealed weapon. If ever there was an example of "God, Guns, and Guts" in the face of terrible odds, its the heroine Jeanne Assam.
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    I think that I remember reading that they increased security when they heard of the first shooting. I do not know if that means that they did not have any security normally or if they just beefed it up.

    Also on CNN now I just read that the coroner reported that the guy killed himself.

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    At least the church had the good sense to not "leave it up to God" or to let "God's will" prevail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Miller View Post
    At least the church had the good sense to not "leave it up to God" or to let "God's will" prevail.
    Actually, I think "God's will" did prevail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Miller View Post
    At least the church had the good sense to not "leave it up to God" or to let "God's will" prevail.

    Ah but:; I think "His will" did prevail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonesnofoa View Post
    That makes sense.

    How much does 1000+ rounds of rifle ammo weight?
    A case of 1000 .45 ACP weighs 50 pounds.

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    Attacker had 1000 rounds?
    That would weigh how much?
    Was it in magazines or clips (add more weight)?
    Did he have a small vehicle of some kind tagging along behind to haul all this freight?
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    But .223 is considerably lighter than that...

    What was he carrying? Have they said yet?

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    I've been seeing a lot of noise made about the fact that the BG fired the actual shot that killed him...I normally do not subscribe to the Dark Conspiracy ideas of the media, but this strikes me as odd.

    First, there was the constant "security guard" and "security officer" that had to preface every mention of Jeanne Assam - despite the fact that she was un-paid, un-uniformed, un-affiliated with any sort of security company, and so on. What she was, was a member of the church who had a CCW permit and, more importantly, the mental and physical fortitude to take responsibility for her own, and her church's, protection.

    Now, there is a virtual orgy of reporting about the fact that the shooter actually fired the final round himself. By all accounts, Ms. Assam STOPPED the attack using her personal firearm, and that is always the desired result. When/how he actually died is of minor importance - what is of major importance is how/when he was forced to stop his attack.

    So, a big to the major media outlets... You guys suck.

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    Other notes: A 30 round mag for an AR weighs about 1.5lbs. It would take about 33 of them to make the "1,000 rounds," which would weigh about 50lbs, and would be pretty darned bulky.
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    I case anyone really has to know. 1000 rounds of 223 in 20 round mags weighs 37.5 lbs. In 30 rd mags (1020 rounds) weighs 51 lbs. That's with 55gr bullets. So it's conceivable that he had that many rounds and thank God that she stopped him when she did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonesnofoa View Post
    I saw a different news story that said the gunman had 40 rounds on him. I say this because i remember thinking how could the guy have killed 100 people with 40 rounds?

    No he had 1000 rounds including his back pack. Maybe he had 40 rounds in two mags, but I remember them saying he had several mags.

    She was ask what her carry was and what cal, she refused to answer. The Vietnam vet said he thought she fired 12 rounds. That would sound like a 40 cal double stack.

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    One thing she mentioned was how absolutely LOUD the gunshot reports were.
    Auditory exclusion did not seem to kick in for her.

    Just a minor and probably irrelevant addition on my part.
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