Teacher arrested-loaded firearm on school property

This is a discussion on Teacher arrested-loaded firearm on school property within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...l_tab01_layout A Seminole County elementary school teacher was arrested today after allegedly bringing a loaded firearm onto school property. Michele McGhee, 56, was charged with ...

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    Teacher arrested-loaded firearm on school property

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    A Seminole County elementary school teacher was arrested today after allegedly bringing a loaded firearm onto school property.

    Michele McGhee, 56, was charged with possession of a firearm on school property. She was transported to John E. Polk Correctional Facility and released after posting $1000 bond, said Lt. Dennis Lemma of the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.

    Lorry Coats, a secretary at Heathrow Elementary, told Seminole County Sheriff's deputies that she was walking across the school's bus ramp at approximately 7:45 a.m. Wednesday when she noticed a cell phone lying on the ground about thirty feet away from the school's administrative building. Upon closer inspection, she found a handgun in a case lying next to the phone.

    Coats took the gun and the phone to Barbara Nixon, Heathrow Elementary's principal, who cross-referenced the phone's number and realized it belonged to Michele McGhee, 56, a third-grade teacher at the school, according to the arrest report.

    Nixon summoned McGhee to the principal's office, where McGhee admitted that she had a concealed weapons permit for the gun, but knew Florida law prohibits carrying a handgun onto school property. She said that a plumber had been at her home Tuesday, and that she had kept the gun handy for safety reasons.

    When sheriff's deputies arrived, McGhee invoked her right to remain silent. When deputies examined the handgun, a .38 snub-nosed revolver, they found that it was loaded with five hollow point bullets, according to the arrest report.

    The sheriff's office has yet to determine how the gun ended up in the parking lot.

    "That's going to be one of the focus points of the continued investigation - to figure out why the gun was there," said Lieutenant Lemma.
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    I guess that's what she gets for leaving a loaded gun around for some kid to find it.

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    cant really say much untill i find out how and why the gun and phone were lying in the parking lot: very odd..
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    Quote Originally Posted by miklcolt45 View Post
    When sheriff's deputies arrived, McGhee invoked her right to remain silent.
    Smartest thing she did that day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Offbody carry for the lose, literally.

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    I agree wholeheartedly.
    Unless you strap it on, there's no telling where it will end up when your flustered, in a hurry, or when one might treat it like a newspaper and even set on the car top only to watch it driving out of the parking lot bouncing on the ground.

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    im interested in how the heck it ended up on the parking lot floor!?!
    also, if you are going to do something like that and leave it in your car, if its a place you cant have it even in the parking lot, park farther away (whatever distance is legal).

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    A different report...

    http://www.wftv.com/news/14833270/detail.html

    "Michelle McGhee is a third grade teacher at Heathrow Elementary School. She's anything but a hardened criminal. That's why it's hard for parents to believe she had a gun at school, loaded with hollow-point bullets.

    Investigators said the school secretary found the weapon on the ground just about 30 feet from students around 7:45 Wednesday morning. The loaded gun was next to a cell phone and administrators soon figured out both belonged to McGhee.

    Investigators said the 56-year-old teacher had no explanation, or at least didn't give one, about how her loaded .38-caliber handgun ended up on the ground so close to students at Heathrow Elementary School.

    "We are very fortunate that a law-abiding citizen and an adult found it," said Lt. Dennis Lemma, Seminole County Sheriff's Office.

    The Seminole County Sheriff's Office said the school secretary found the gun, along with McGhee's cell phone, near a bus ramp around 7:45 in the morning and brought it to the principal. Investigators said McGhee told the principal she threw the gun in her car and may have mixed it up with other items she normally brings to school.

    That was little consolation for parents who later found out their kids were so close to a loaded weapon.

    "It's just insanity," said parent Heather Wifall. "You shouldn't bring a gun on campus."

    No one answered when Eyewitness News knocked at McGhee's home in Sanford. She reportedly told administrators she got the gun to protect herself because she recently had a plumber doing work at her house.

    McGhee's neighbors said she's active in her church and they were surprised to hear about her arrest.

    "They're both wonderful people," said McGhee's neighbor Judy Stephens.

    Authorities said McGhee invoked her right to remain silent, so they aren't sure why the gun ended up where it did.

    McGhee has a firearm's permit, but Florida Statutes clearly outline the specification for having a firearm on school grounds. Violation of the statute is a third degree felony."
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormbringerr View Post
    cant really say much untill i find out how and why the gun and phone were lying in the parking lot: very odd..
    More than likely they fell out of her pocket or purse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miklcolt45 View Post
    "Michelle McGhee is a third grade teacher at Heathrow Elementary School. She's anything but a hardened criminal. That's why it's hard for parents to believe she had a gun at school, loaded with hollow-point bullets."
    When enough laws are passed so that a passive act (such as forgetfulness in this case) becomes a criminal act, then anyone can become a "hardened criminal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by miklcolt45 View Post
    "...when she noticed a cell phone lying on the ground about thirty feet away from the school's administrative building."
    Lying on the ground? Outside an elementary school? I've got a huge problem with that.

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    Good bye permit, she made the ultimate mistake lose guns around were kids could've found it , it's a wrap...

    I want to know how she left the gun in the parking lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKelly View Post
    When enough laws are passed so that a passive act (such as forgetfulness in this case) becomes a criminal act, then anyone can become a "hardened criminal".
    It's not forgetfulness, it's criminally culpable negligence. It is her firearm, and she has an absolute duty to know where it is at all times.

    Even leaving aside for the moment the monumental negligence of dropping the firearm outside the entrance to the school and not even knowing it, it was unlawful for her to take it out of the vehicle in the first place on school grounds.

    It doesn't make her a "hardened criminal", but it was a felony. She'll probably lose her CWFL and her job.

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    Pretty dumb thing to do...a costly mistake!
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    Yeah, it's really hard to feel sorry for her.
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