My First Time Having To Pull My Weapon
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You did what other people don't generally do you paid attention . You could ...
December 14th, 2007 11:03 AM
Fantastic job and so glad you and your mother are fine.
You did what other people don't generally do you paid attention. You could not have handled it any better. One thing looking back 20/20 hindsight is calling the police when you had that "feeling".
Again very good job and the perp got something to remember you by!
"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" - George S. Patton.
December 14th, 2007 11:03 AM
December 14th, 2007 11:03 AM
Wowzers! Great work and way to stay alert.
Glad the incident ended without a shooting. Unfortunately i'm sure he will be robbing someone else soon. Bet he crapped his pants though.
Thinking back to the incident... Is there anything you would have done differently? Or trainig you might add?
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft!
-- Theodore Roosevelt --
December 14th, 2007 11:24 AM
Thank you so much for posting. I get lazy and stop carrying. I am so proud of what you did. You have helped all of us. That BG will think twice now before doing it again. I'll have a Czech Pilsner Urquell beer to you tonight.
December 14th, 2007 11:30 AM
The fact that the other LEO found the knife, behind your van, they will be able to get fingerprints off the handle and take this guy off the streets before he trys this again with someone else.....possibly like someone who does not carry a weapon.
The only thing needed for evil to exist is for good men to stand by and do nothing!!!
December 14th, 2007 11:35 AM
Hoozyerdaddy (and anyone else who cares ),
Just to give you some numbers here... Tueller was a Salt Lake City PD sergeant who used police training sessions to determine that most people are capable of closing a 21-ft distance in about 1.5 seconds. The average cop in training could draw from a holster and get off two shots in about...1.5 seconds. Needless to say, if charging badguy has a machete and those two shots don't do some really catastrophic damage pretty quickly, the shooter may still be facing a Very Bad Day.
In my LFI-1 course we had every member of the class do a 21-ft charge. Mind you, in this case we were reacting to the start signal, not the other way around, so our times, if anything, were a little higher than what an opponent would really have to react in. Add to this the fact that none of us running had felonious motivations, crank in our systems, or were particularly pumped full of adrenaline.
Just to summarize, though, out of 25 folks running it, all but five did it in under two seconds. Everybody under the age of 50 did it in two seconds or less, including folks in badly fitting flip flops as well as a couple of 300 pound guys. Of the over-50s, only two were more than 2.5 seconds---one of them was the guy with the cane recovering from a broken tibia, and I don't recall who the second one was. (For the record, best time was 1.2 sec, from the young, skinny little lawyer who was also the class's top shooter...) More than half of the class did it in 1.8 seconds or under.
So, yeah, with the guy charging from inside 20 feet and you having the time to draw and present---having already prepared your cover garments for the draw---but not much more...that sounds spot on from what I would have expected.
Last edited by kazzaerexys; December 14th, 2007 at 02:29 PM.
December 14th, 2007 12:28 PM
Excellent story and observation skills.
BTW _always_ assume the following as it's a rule of street survival:
You see 1 = There is a backup
You see 2 = There is one or two backups
You see 3 = There are two or more backups
You see 4 = There is a gang of backup and/or the whole street (everyone in view) is complicitious
Again good reaction on your part.
"Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy
"A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing
December 14th, 2007 01:08 PM
Awesome job, can't argue with success, but I will make a point. You were in serious danger of a gun grab if that hadn't worked out just right. Next time try a shove off with the other arm.
"Each worker carried his sword strapped to his side." Nehemiah 4:18
Guns Save Lives. Paramedics Save Lives. But...
Paramedics With Guns Scare People!
December 14th, 2007 01:30 PM
You did a VERY good job of picking up and tracking the threat - well done. The puke is lucky, if I were in that same situation (him in contact range with me escorting my invalid mother) I would have put a couple in him as my firearm came up. WAY too close for my comfort.....
December 14th, 2007 02:11 PM
And in your state, you'd be arrested, lose your firearms and have your pistol permit yanked immediately. THEN the investigation begins...
Originally Posted by CT-Mike
December 14th, 2007 02:18 PM
Hooz, I strongly encourage you to read, "In The Gravest Extreme", by Massad Ayoob. Then spend some time reading "Combat Handguns".
You may not have fully thought through what will happen to you if you do in fact have to shoot an aggressor. As it stands you walked away. That is all we can ask for. Everybody but the lawyers lose when you have to shoot for real.
December 14th, 2007 02:26 PM
I'm willing to bet that junkie will think twice about trying to rob someone again. Maybe he'd be better off in Illinois Sounds like you did good Nice job on this.
December 14th, 2007 02:57 PM
Congratulations on your observation skills and the outcome.
One thing I was curious about is whether it was light out or not. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere, but even if it has been, I don't have the best reading comprehension skills.
December 14th, 2007 03:07 PM
Good job of recognizing the threat early and taking care of it when it was presented to you. You did good, and sounds like your Mom did, as well, by calling 911 before the situation was even over.
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.
December 14th, 2007 06:19 PM
Very nice job... be safe out there.
December 14th, 2007 07:15 PM
Sadly, you are probably correct. Although I do think that attitudes may be slowly changing after the home invasion in Cheshire.
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