The season - the place ....

The season - the place ....

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    The season - the place ....

    There was a time - maybe back in my nieve youthful days - when I might have considered churches as sacrosanct. Immune from bad things. That is totally disproved of course.

    Equally I might have considered malls at Christmas time equally safe from bad things - just because of ''the Spirit of Christmas". The feeling of ''goodwill'' etc. Also disproved - wrong thinking.

    Transfer now to ''Cynical'' P95 - open eyes.!

    Bad guys have no take on time of year, sanctity of a place ..... no, they are after what they can get - do what they wish, probably as easily and effectively as they can see possible.

    So - all you folks still likely to get caught up in the commercial mayhem known as Christmas ..... be vigilant and prepared. This time of year is no safer than any other.
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    Going Christmas shopping Sat. am, and my gun will be gift wrapped in a nice holster on my side.


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    My wife had to slip by Wally World this morning - and from her description - it was chaos!!

    She did tho find me a bag of crushed walnut media for a superb price
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    In terms of consideration of whether to be armed, I view each day as just another "Tuesday." If anything, the decreased attentiveness of potential victims combines with the increased amount of wealth sitting outside of banks (either in wallets or newly-purchased items) to make it more enticing to robbers, this time of year.
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    The church thing is a great point. I'm a deacon at my church and to be honest I've never carried there. I guess I fell into the "safe" trap... "no one would EVER do anything there". Going to have to rethink things I suppose. Such a shame that one even has to worry about this.
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    Hit up one of the local Wally's yesterday. Man that was a mistake. I went in to get six boxes of #8 Heavy Field 12 Gauge. Jeebus!! Although, one guy looked at what I had in my arms and looked like he remembered something and went over to buy a bunch. Nobody else gave me a second look. hahaha I love this town.
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    tis the season to dig out my #9 bird shot and prepare for a very cold weather MOUT drill to releive the stress of christmas shopping. it realy is becomeing like a warzone out there.(nah i take that back no warzone i've ever seen, trained for, or even heard of was that chaotic)
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    I agree completely! The crowds of aimless wanderers (actually, sitting ducks), unaware of the predatory dirtbags looking for easy marks...
    I hate crowds anyway...good reminder though...

    Stay armed...stay out of the malls...stay safe!
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    I always carry and at church, always have. I just picked up a nice OWB Ross holster
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    I sure miss those days P95Carry!
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    I don't attend church (was forced to as a kid), that's why I've never been back. I believe religion should be a personal choice, but anyway back on topic.

    I agree entirely that this season is no safer than any other season. Many folks mean to do good deeds this time of year, but there is in fact pure evil that is willing to disrupt that goodwill. If I'm not workin, I'm packin, and nobody is going to tell me otherwise... NOBODY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post

    Bad guys have no take on time of year, sanctity of a place ..... no, they are after what they can get - do what they wish, probably as easily and effectively as they can see possible.

    This one Chris I'll have to disagree with you. Bad guys do have a take on time of year and sanctity of a place. This is the time of year when a lot of people let their awareness down. Malls are crowlded and pickpocketing is made easy. People leave the mall with their arms filled which makes muggings easier. Can you imagine how many wallets disappear during Madi Gra with people being elbow to elbow and drunk. Thats easy takeing. Any event or holiday during the year which lower your awareness is Christmas to a bad guy. The take is bigger and more of it.

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    The BG's have not only broadened their geography but their "tactics" have become more violent and brazen as well.
    Turn the election's in 2014 to a "2A Revolution". It will serve as a 1994 refresher not to "infringe" on our Second Amendment. We know who they are now.........SEND 'EM HOME. Our success in this will be proportional to how hard we work to make it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    The BG's have not only broadened their geography but their "tactics" have become more violent and brazen as well.
    Cause and Effect.
    1. CAUSE - Gun control and "Gun Free" zones we all know are Criminal enhancement zones.
    EFFECT - Little to no fear of retaliation while working, do whatever they want.

    2. CAUSE - CC permits to citizens.
    EFFECT - Increased risk of retaliation while working, subdue the victim(s) fast and hard.

    Remove Cause #1, and drastically increase Cause #2, then there will be too much risk for the potential gains, thus a change in careers for the criminal. Unfortunately that will mean an increase of non-violent crime, like identity theft, property theft... The things that you can not fight against.

    That or the criminal will start adapting the tactics of the terrorists - you can't hurt me if I am unarmed/running away/holding a child...
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