Anyone on here go boating?

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    Anyone on here go boating?

    So how do you carry on a boat? Concealed or open? It's not in my handbook unless I missed it. My 'boat' is a little canoe if that matters.

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    I have a boat (which I haven't gotten out of the garage this summer) and generally carry in a small carry on bag I take when I go. It's actually a surplus tool bag that someone would simply think contained tools. I carry my 1911 and a couple of extra mags, my flashlight, my knife, cell phone, cigarettes, lighter, wallet, etc in it. Since mt wife doesn't usually carry a purse on board, I also have her stuff in there, too. While it's not waterproof, it will turn back the occasional splash. With a canoe, I would say that it does matter. I would make certain that if you use a bag that it is waterproof and secured to the boat in come way. I don't usually turn my SeaRay over....
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    I would just reccomend that you should check the laws ref.>>> having a loaded weapon in a motorized vechicle that is not on your person. (Even if you have a valid CCW license.)--------- On my "river boat" in Fla. I have a Pelican brand dry box. Along with my boat registration paperwork,hunting/fishing license,game and fish lawbook,copy of my CCW and drivers license,and everything that is in my pocket when I get underway,I take off my person and put in the box ,my CCW of choice. This box is completely waterproof,and it floats. If I have to open it for paperwork inspection by a FWC warden,I tell him that I have a weapon in the box and they always say "go ahead and open it".I have had no problems in this reguard so far.--- I guess that they figure that if I was gonna shoot him---I wouldn't tell him first.----------

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    Mrs Bakeryman Lives In Ohio

    Ohio ~ Where even the people who passed and enacted the firearm carry laws do not know what they mean.
    Boy, I sure hope Ohio gets itself in order concerning its NEW firearm carry laws.
    That State has really clouding up what should have been a simple Right For Good Citizens To Carry.
    Now, law~abiding, honest, well intentioned, well meaning Ohio people who DESPERATELY WANT TO COMPLY with the law...Don't Know HOW!
    They don't know HOW to follow the law...and are unable to follow the law because the law makes no sense.
    That is a pathetic situation.
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    I carry open in the wilderness and conceled in urban areas, but am in MI. And use a kayak.

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    I don't think the boat information is in the AG's booklet, but here is the Revised Code section concerning firearms in boats. I bolded the section on CHL licensees. Hope this helps.

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    1547.69. Firearms offenses; signaling devices.

    (A) As used in this section:

    (1) "Firearm" and "handgun" have the same meanings as in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code.

    (2) "Unloaded" has the same meaning as in section 2923.16 of the Revised Code.

    (B) No person shall knowingly discharge a firearm while in or on a vessel.

    (C) No person shall knowingly transport or have a loaded firearm in a vessel in a manner that the firearm is accessible to the operator or any passenger.

    (D) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a vessel unless it is unloaded and is carried in one of the following ways:

    (1) In a closed package, box, or case;

    (2) In plain sight with the action opened or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or that cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.

    (E) (1) The affirmative defenses authorized in divisions (D)(1) and (2) of section 2923.12 of the Revised Code are affirmative defenses to a charge under division (C) or (D) of this section that involves a firearm other than a handgun. It is an affirmative defense to a charge under division (C) or (D) of this section of transporting or having a firearm of any type, including a handgun, in a vessel that the actor transported or had the firearm in the vessel for any lawful purpose and while the vessel was on the actor's own property, provided that this affirmative defense is not available unless the actor, prior to arriving at the vessel on the actor's own property, did not transport or possess the firearm in the vessel or in a motor vehicle in a manner prohibited by this section or division (B) or (C) of section 2923.16 of the Revised Code while the vessel was being operated on a waterway that was not on the actor's own property or while the motor vehicle was being operated on a street, highway, or other public or private property used by the public for vehicular traffic.


    (2) No person who is charged with a violation of division (C) or (D) of this section shall be required to obtain a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun under section 2923.125 [2923.12.5] or 2923.1213 [2923.12.13] of the Revised Code as a condition for the dismissal of the charge.


    (F) Divisions (B), (C), and (D) of this section do not apply to the possession or discharge of a United States coast guard approved signaling device required to be carried aboard a vessel under section 1547.251 [1547.25.1] of the Revised Code when the signaling device is possessed or used for the purpose of giving a visual distress signal. No person shall knowingly transport or possess any signaling device of that nature in or on a vessel in a loaded condition at any time other than immediately prior to the discharge of the signaling device for the purpose of giving a visual distress signal.

    (G) No person shall operate or permit to be operated any vessel on the waters in this state in violation of this section.

    (H) This section does not apply to officers, agents, or employees of this or any other state or of the United States, or to law enforcement officers, when authorized to carry or have loaded or accessible firearms in a vessel and acting within the scope of their duties, and this section does not apply to persons legally engaged in hunting.
    Divisions (C) and (D) of this section do not apply to a person who transports or possesses a handgun in a vessel and who, at the time of that transportation or possession, is carrying a valid license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun issued to the person under section 2923.125 [2923.12.5] or 2923.1213 [2923.12.13] of the Revised Code or a license to carry a concealed handgun that was issued by another state with which the attorney general has entered into a reciprocity agreement under section 109.69 of the Revised Code, unless the person knowingly is in a place on the vessel described in division (B) of section 2923.126 [2923.12.6] of the Revised Code.




    (I) If a law enforcement officer stops a vessel for a violation of this section or any other law enforcement purpose, if any person on the vessel surrenders a firearm to the officer, either voluntarily or pursuant to a request or demand of the officer, and if the officer does not charge the person with a violation of this section or arrest the person for any offense, the person is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm, and the firearm is not contraband, the officer shall return the firearm to the person at the termination of the stop.






    HISTORY: 143 v H 522 (Eff 6-13-90); 147 v S 187. Eff 3-18-99; 150 v H 12, § 1, eff. 4-8-04.

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    Boat carry is not subject to the same silly conditions as car carry. My best suggestion is keep it concealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter
    Ohio ~ Where even the people who passed and enacted the firearm carry laws do not know what they mean.
    Boy, I sure hope Ohio gets itself in order concerning its NEW firearm carry laws.
    That State has really clouding up what should have been a simple Right For Good Citizens To Carry.
    Now, law~abiding, honest, well intentioned, well meaning Ohio people who DESPERATELY WANT TO COMPLY with the law...Don't Know HOW!
    They don't know HOW to follow the law...and are unable to follow the law because the law makes no sense.
    That is a pathetic situation.
    Geeeze, you're not even kidding!!! Every time I ask a law official a question about carry laws, I have gotten a different answer EVERY time. They do that just to discourage people from wanting to carry and hope it'll scare more people from getting a license.
    Well it ain't gonna work!
    I wonder how the ODNR would answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Swordsman
    Boat carry is not subject to the same silly conditions as car carry. My best suggestion is keep it concealed.

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    Hey thank you for posting 'all that'!! I think I will print it and carry it too!

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    Hi Mrs Bakeryman,

    I carry in a waist pack while on a boat. I've done ankle carry also, but a waistpack seems to work the best, since I don't carry my purse onto a boat but want to take some essentials with me. It doesn't get in the way of a life vest (mandatory on our boat rentals). Maybe a well-sealed plastic baggie or two would be a good idea... considering what hapened to Mrshonts' cellphone when I accidentally tipped him out of the canoe.
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    "Accidentally" she says???? >; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty
    Hi Mrs Bakeryman,

    I carry in a waist pack while on a boat. I've done ankle carry also, but a waistpack seems to work the best, since I don't carry my purse onto a boat but want to take some essentials with me. It doesn't get in the way of a life vest (mandatory on our boat rentals). Maybe a well-sealed plastic baggie or two would be a good idea... considering what hapened to Mrshonts' cellphone when I accidentally tipped him out of the canoe.
    Hi Betty,
    I have a waist pack holster that I use normally. I think it'll be the best thing to use on the boat. Probably should Scotch-Guard it first tho, at least.
    Thanks!

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