Trespass and Inspectors...the Saga

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    Trespass and Inspectors...the Saga

    Another thread got me to thinking so I started this one lest I veer off course/topic in the other one(as I have a tendency to do).

    I remember a brief incident while at my parents house sometime around early fall season. I had noticed a woman walking around the perimeter of the home and appeared to be peering in via the windows, walking around the deck and appeared to be inspecting various things.

    I didn't recognize this person. I grabbed my father and told him what was going on and we headed outside. I got her attention rather loudly and demandingly asked her basically "WTH?". At that time my thumb had already cleared my shirt from the grip of my 1911 and my hand was resting on it at the 4 oclock position with that part of my body angled away from her.

    My father took charge and in the course of the conversation discovered that she was an "Inspector" with the FFX Co taxing authority and they were going through and checking all the homes on the block to see if they needed to "up" their valuation so they could tax people more the next year.

    After making it quite clear that she was uninvited and her little ID badge effectively meant diddly as far as we were concerned with private property, she decided to move on. Once she left, we went back inside. While inside I got that "feeling" so I went to the front of the house and looked out the window...sure enough there that dummy was "inspecting" the neighbors house. I knew they weren't home. So back outside we go again. This time making it quite clear that TRESPASSING on private property wasn't exactly the brightest idea and that we all take care of our own around here. She moved on again grumbling all the way.

    Now, that whole super-winded story aside...what are your thoughts? It just seems to me that someone at some point should be educating various localities "authorities" that trespassing on private property isn't exactly the brightest idea and had they surprised me in the process they may well have been shot. As it was, the inspector person was lucky as I picked up on them before any "surprisings" could happen.
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    Acting within their authority, public officials are not trespassing. I dont like it, its clear you dont like it, but it is what it is. I would have been in a world of trouble had things gone further.
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    Here in my county in Florida ( Manatee )they ring your bell and tell you they're there inspecting.
    At least you know they're there.

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    I agree with Sixto. In our area when you sign up for utilities; gas, water, electricity ect... You have given your consent for them to inspect their meters, valves or whatever. As far as assessing property here most of the folks will ask for permission but they don't have to. The burden is on us not to come across as gun toting fanatics. Like it or not it is reality.
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    If its in the official capacity of their job, its no more trespass than an LE perusing a fleeing suspect. They cannot enter the house or outbuildings, but may be on the property , look throe windows ect.. if it is pursuant to the job at hand .
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    I understand they may have the authority to do so whether I agree with it or not, however I think it does pose a problem randomly showing up on someone's property and going through things unannounced. Pretty damn foolish if you ask me.
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    I don’t know but just some little “inspector” badge sounds a bit suspicious to me especially it she is creeping and peering into windows. Here in North Carolina residents are advised if tax inspectors are reassessing property and they only look for new additions or new buildings. I think after confronting her I would have called LEO’s just to make sure she really was employed by a legitimate tax agency, after she may have been looking for places for an accomplice to break into.

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    Legal or not, I don't think it's very smart to do so without informing the residents you are going to be walking around the property. I know who the meter reader is, they wear a uniform and go straight to the meter and leave. I'm going to be weary of someone "snooping around", male or female.
    I bid jobs when people aren't home. I have to walk around the house. I have a well marked truck and wear a company shirt. I always ring the doorbell to see if they are home first. It's just common sense.

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    would someone just shoot an unarmed person just for trespassing ?

    Tho not smart on the inspectors part, I dont think officials expect responsible homeowners to shoot unarmed "trespassers" in the middle of the day

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    I would of taken her name, supervisor's name and called, via cell phone, her office to confirm:

    1) That she is who she is...

    2) Discuss with the Supervisor the property inspection policy

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    I understand they may have the authority to do so whether I agree with it or not, however I think it does pose a problem randomly showing up on someone's property and going through things unannounced. Pretty damn foolish if you ask me.
    Well the feds dont seem to be able to hire genius , so why would your local ??LOL

    For the record tho i took something from this thread that is different than some did ... I never thought the op in any way was ready to " shoot them revenooers " so to speak . The op questioned a .gov minions ability to legally " trespass " and was answered . Other than a " go away lady " type statement no threats or displays were offered to the nice tax collector . While i am sure she feels " threatened " on that block the fall back position is to charge the same taxes as last year when there is no inspection . The OP was aware ( maby or maby not over enthusiastic ) , but aware of what is going on in his neighborhood . The little gal/or boy from .gov can dammed well announce out of politeness if nothing else .
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    In our town, we get a letter a couple weeks in advance letting us know our neighborhood is due for inspection. Doesn't seem seem like that hard of a task to drop a postcard in the mail at least giving people a heads up that some creep is going to be violating your privacy.
    Little OT, but a couple years back when they were doing census, one of the census takers pounded on our door at 6 am. Said his superviser told him to because he couldn't catch us during the day. I just remember they had a huge public service campaign asking people to cooperate with the census and then they pull Gestapo crap like that.

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    Guess who's assessment is going wayyyyyyy up.

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    If she had only come to your door and introduced herself first, I imagine things just might have gone a lot better for her!
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    When I lived in a county a bit west of Fairfax they would send a letter giving approximate dates that inspectors would be in the area. Being a bit more rural than much of Fairfax this was probably very prudent. I'm sure some folks would come out with shotguns and rifles to confront the "revenuers".
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