I think you are mis reading it.
This is a discussion on Just wondering within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; i was reading the constitution the other night(i was bored and actualy looked at the SMA recomended reading list) and came across something interesting. "Article. ...
i was reading the constitution the other night(i was bored and actualy looked at the SMA recomended reading list) and came across something interesting.
"Article. IV. - The States
Section 1 - Each State to Honor all others
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."
does this actualy provide recipricocity or am i mis reading this?
"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."
Every well-bred petty crook knows: the small concealable weapons always go to the far left of the place setting.
no . he's not misreading it.
It's just ignored when it comes to CCW's.
After Heller it might be ripe for challenge.
Gun control is hitting what you aim at
This looks like another good place to mention the "Second Amendment Primer" by Les Adams. A must read and a highly valuable reference for the pro2A fight.
It can be found HERE
I don't claim to be an expert in legalese, but it seems to me that this article/section provides for the recognition of marriages (among other things) from state to state. IE... a legal marriage in Maryland is recognized in Ohio regardless to whether the marriage could have been legally performed in Ohio due to, lets say, age or familial proximity.
You have an interesting point. Seems like driver's licenses are recognized in all 50 states. I know some states don't report violations to other states and all the legalese between states can be weird.
Maybe some one needs to try the state laws out. Take your CCW permit and go to NJ and get caught then go all the way to SCOUS.
You all are trying to read too much into the clause. Full faith and credit means that states have to recognize things like marriage and drivers licenses. But, in something that is highly regulated or outright illegal it doesn't apply. A CCW would be more in line with a lawyer being forced to be admitted to the bar of each state before he is able to practice. It is tightly regulated and therefore doesn't apply across the several states.
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A driver license, yes. All other licenses, most likely a big no.
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The full faith and credit clause seems not to apply to marriages. There was a big story recently in one of the big papers about a lesbian couple who got married in Mass., but live in...I think, Oregon. They want a divorce. Oregon won't let them divorce because they don't really recognize the marriage. Mass won't divorce them because they don't live there. Amusing Catch-22 ensues...
As for CCW, the only way you'll see enforced reciprocity is if it becomes an interstate commerce issue or if there is federal funding involved---neither is likely to come up anytime soon. Keep in mind that the founders intended for the federal gov't to be limited and for primacy of law making to rest with the several states, so there is no historical precedent for any sort of forced acknowledgment of national standards (again, outside of any interstate commerce applications).
The best federal intervention here would be to use the interstate commerce clause to knock down state-specific manufacturing requirements. ("I'm sorry, CA, no micro-stamping for you as it would unduly burden interstate gun sales.") I don't see that happening anytime soon, either...