Here's an idea...Point system for CCW(H,L)?

Here's an idea...Point system for CCW(H,L)?

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    Here's an idea...Point system for CCW(H,L)?

    What would you think of a point system for CC holders along the lines of your drivers license?

    We have different levels of traffic infractions that can either stack up to loss of license, or all gone in one shot (no pun intended).

    How about the same for CC holders in the event of poor judgment and getting charged (I cite the 7-11 clerk here - http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ing-story.html
    as an example).

    Lesser charges like carrying where you are not supposed to, accidental display...
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    I hope you're kidding.

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    Totally against it. Who is going to enforce it? How will you insure it is administered fairly? Just like speeding, one LEO will follow the letter of the law and pull you for 1 MPH over the speed limit, another will give you 5-10 MPH over. To many variables with a point system. Leave it like it is. As we used to say in the Air Force, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

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    The last thing we need is more nitpicking regulations that are ripe for abuse by idiots. No way. The less regulations and laws regarding guns the better.
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    I would be more in favor of not having to have a license to protect ourselves.

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    If you do something stupid and against the law you permit should be revoked. You either are qualified to carry a firearm or you are not.
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    I see your point, but I think in the long run beaurocrats will find stupid stuff to take points for. Overall

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    Criminal attack and self defense already operates on the "point system" of life and courts. It's real and the "points" show up in terms of life, death, dollars and time, depending on the results of the actions on both sides. It's not always just or proportionate. But, it's real. The greatest number of these "points" accrue to those who survive unscathed, physically, financially, legally, phychologically and socially; less, for getting screwed over in one or more of those categories; most, for willing involvement in screwing over an innocent's life. In a very real sense, then, he/she with the most points wins.

    Though, on the idea of treating self defense actions on a points system like moving violations while driving? Uh, no.
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    I am referring to the little things that could get your license plucked by an over zealous officer, like your cover garment got hung up on the weapon and a sheep panicked and started a stampede.

    This thread ( http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ow-handle.html ) where the OP drew down on the IDIOT (justified IMO) but the tables could have been turned if the IDIOT called the police and wanted brandishing and menacing charges filed.

    Forgetting to grab your CC license for whatever reason when you go out.

    Big things like a bad shoot, public ND...Anything that the CC holder is way in the wrong and has put the pubic in danger obviously is a "kiss it good bye"
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    Sounds to me like a dubious solution in search of a non-existent problem.
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    I'm sorry, what? CCW isn't a driver's license - there's nothing about driving in the Constitution (or horses or carriages or what have you, whatever would be the period equivalent). Don't equate them.

    If anything one should be looking to eliminate government subjugation, and move towards AK/VT carry. Not the other way.

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    Yeah, we really need more regulation of our rights

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    No Way

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
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    +1 Either you carry the firearm and obey the law or you leave it at home.

    By the way there is a point system...It just so happens that 1 point and you are out.

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