Dummy with a gun

Dummy with a gun

This is a discussion on Dummy with a gun within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Discourage self-ordained citizen police for their and the public's safety from: Delaware Online DELEWARE, January 21st, 2008 … The case of vigilante justice at a ...

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 37
  1. #1
    Distinguished Member Array mr.stuart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    usa-southeast texas
    Posts
    1,720

    Dummy with a gun

    Discourage self-ordained citizen police for their and the public's safety
    from: Delaware Online

    DELEWARE, January 21st, 2008 …

    The case of vigilante justice at a shopping mall last Wednesday afternoon is a good example of why taking criminal matters into your own hands is a dangerous idea.

    The harrowing episode involved a pistol-wielding passer-by's attempt to break up a fight between strangers feuding with road rage.

    In the parking lot outside the Brandywine Town Center occupants of two cars, who claimed the other car cut them off, began physically fighting.

    Shoppers called police but before troopers could get there, a 58-year-old man brandished a pistol and ordered the trio to "get to the ground," according to court records.

    According to police he told his "suspects" he had every right to have a gun and did not need to prove he was a police officer or show identification as one of them requested.

    It turned out that the weapon was unloaded. The owner could not produce a license for a concealed weapon, a requirement of state law.

    Even if he produced a license and the weapon was loaded, he still faced no immediate threat from the fighting suspects. So it was not a case of self-defense.

    Police arrested and charged him with felony aggravated menacing, possession of a firearm during a felony as well as carrying a concealed deadly weapon and disorderly conduct.

    Despite his good intentions, the passer-by took a serious gamble with the lives of the shoppers and others in that parking lot. Suppose his enraged "suspects"were armed as well. He had no way of knowing.


  2. #2
    Ex Member Array Ram Rod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Fayetteville, AR
    Posts
    13,687
    Never any shortage of idiots is there?

  3. #3
    Member Array credy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Jacksonville, FL
    Posts
    58
    Wow ...

    There's quite a difference between doing the right thing and acting like Captain America.

    This guy didn't see the difference.

  4. #4
    VIP Member
    Array CopperKnight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Spokane area, WA
    Posts
    6,742
    There's a difference between stepping in when 3 people are fighting (mutual combat) and when 2 guys are beating on someone else (assault). From the sounds of it, this wasn't a case in which he should have stepped in with a gun.
    eschew obfuscation

    The only thing that stops bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. SgtD

  5. #5
    VIP Member Array Janq's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    6,781
    This incident will be tabulated by the Brady people yet another ding against us.
    Moronic actions like this no doubt MallNinja are why people fear folks who have desire to carry guns on the street and who are not law enforcement and/or having passed all manner of testing, certification, evaluation.
    There are just a lot of stupid and crazy and moronic people out there.

    People need to self police themselves.
    Don't be in the street fighting with others over getting cut off on the MLK Blvd.
    As well don't be running up on folk gun in hand making like Roscoe P. Coltrane and being half as smart.

    It's simple, just act right.

    - Janq
    "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy

    "A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing

  6. #6
    Senior Member Array cmidkiff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Posts
    835
    58 year old man attempting to stop a pile of teens from fighting... with an unloaded pistol?

    Lucky he survived, never mind being arrested.

    Guy should have called 911 to report a fight... wrote down plate numbers perhaps... be a good witness. With the prevalence of camera phones these days, might even have gotten a photo.

    Draw and order these guys to the ground? I don't think so. A concealed weapon does not make you a law enforcement officer!
    Liberty is an inherently offensive lifestyle. Living in a free society guarantees that each one of us will see our most cherished principles and beliefs questioned and in some cases mocked. It's worth it.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Array FlyboyLDB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    GA
    Posts
    864
    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    This incident will be tabulated by the Brady people yet another ding against us.

    - Janq
    He was not a legally concealed permit holder. How can they use that against us? Another nut carrying concealed a firearm in an illegal way is what I say.

  8. #8
    Moderator
    Array RETSUPT99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    44,786
    What a jerk...he failed to show his CCW badge!
    The last Blood Moon Tetrad for this millennium starts in April 2014 and ends in September 2015...according to NASA.

    ***********************************
    Certified Glock Armorer
    NRA Life Member[/B]

  9. #9
    1943 - 2009
    Array Captain Crunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Montana
    Posts
    10,372
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyboyLDB View Post
    He was not a legally concealed permit holder. How can they use that against us? Another nut carrying concealed a firearm in an illegal way is what I say.
    What Janq meant was that the Brady Bunch will likely use this incident against US, that is, gun owners in general.


    When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
    And the women come out to cut up what remains,
    Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
    And go to your God like a soldier.

    Rudyard Kipling


    Terry

  10. #10
    VIP Member Array swiftyjuan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Madera, CA
    Posts
    2,488
    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    What a jerk...he failed to show his CCW badge!
    And he probably has one!
    John
    Assault is a behavior, not a device.

    "Don't never take no shortcuts." Patty Reed, Donner Party

    Lifetime NRA member

  11. #11
    JD
    JD is offline
    Administrator
    Array JD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Central Iowa
    Posts
    19,237
    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    What a jerk...he failed to show his CCW badge!
    Quote Originally Posted by swiftyjuan View Post
    And he probably has one!
    Hopefully in his case, it was either the badge or bullets, and he thought the badge was way more cool.

  12. #12
    Senior Member Array Natureboypkr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina
    Posts
    1,046
    Quote Originally Posted by swiftyjuan View Post
    And he probably has one!

    lmao lmao
    Mixed Martial Arts Record= 2-0.......Kyokushin Karate Record=5-0

    USMC.....helping enemies of America die for their countries since 1775

  13. #13
    VIP Member Array Janq's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    6,781
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyboyLDB View Post
    He was not a legally concealed permit holder. How can they use that against us? Another nut carrying concealed a firearm in an illegal way is what I say.
    Gun owner period.
    Gun crime period.
    Guns on the street example, period.

    It can and if past action reflects future perception will be used against us three ways to Sunday.
    Us includes everyone not just lawful CCW types.

    - Janq
    "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy

    "A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing

  14. #14
    Senior Member Array SOLOLUCKY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    ROSS OHIO
    Posts
    517
    If he had a permit/liscence he woulda known that was a BAD idea.
    I believe a lot of permitting exercises and fees are to make people, somewhat, prove they are serious about something and will not take it lightly.
    Ya can't just hand things out to everybody. If you have to work for it you value ti a bit more. Or at least I do.
    R1

    This is mine. That is yours.

    Lets keep it that way.

  15. #15
    VIP Member Array glock27mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    clinton township
    Posts
    2,170
    i would have dailed 911,then sit back and enjoy the show,too see who
    would win the stupididy contest.(i guess the dummy with the gun won
    that contest.
    (SHERIFF BUFORD T. JUSTICE) "what the hell is
    the world coming too"

    NRA LIFE MEMBER

    U.S. ARMY FT.SILL, OKLA.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. TSA dummy steals cop's gun
    By nkanofolives in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: May 3rd, 2009, 01:01 PM
  2. Dummy Guns
    By Daveyj in forum Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: February 7th, 2009, 06:15 PM
  3. Another dummy
    By bps3040 in forum Off Topic & Humor Discussion
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: August 21st, 2008, 04:54 PM
  4. Dummy Rounds
    By cmbthgun in forum Related Gear & Equipment
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: June 18th, 2005, 07:13 PM

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!

» DefensiveCarry Sponsors