Other Countries That Are Firearms Friendly

Other Countries That Are Firearms Friendly

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    Other Countries That Are Firearms Friendly

    Has any one traveled to other countries and brought along their sidearm legally?

    If so what country and how do you register?

    We are considering a Caribbean or possibly Central America vacation this summer, and I was wondering if any of those countries are firearm friendly.


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    quick answer.
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    You can't bring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tns0038 View Post
    Has any one traveled to other countries and brought along their sidearm legally?

    If so what country and how do you register?

    We are considering a Caribbean or possibly Central America vacation this summer, and I was wondering if any of those counties are firearm friendly.
    You cannot possess a firearm in the Caribbean or anywhere in Central America as a foreigner without bribery.

    That said, everybody and their uncle owns a gun in the Caribbean. They are surrounded by Ocean - importing illegal items is easy, so while you're there, consider yourself (and the other tourists), fish in a barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    You cannot possess a firearm in the Caribbean or anywhere in Central America as a foreigner without bribery.

    That said, everybody and their uncle owns a gun in the Caribbean. They are surrounded by Ocean - importing illegal items is easy, so while you're there, consider yourself (and the other tourists), fish in a barrel.
    If you must go, do you really want to risk your life over some local laws. Personally I just wouldn't go, but if you must, get a hook-up while your down there. Not hard to find really.

    But definatly bring some holsters with you for a few different pistols. I would bring a good belt and an IWB for a full size 1911, and mabye a couple different Glock sizes. The Glock's and 1911's seem to be pretty easy to get outside the country, but depending on who your dealing with, who knows what you may end up with. Also a Smartcarry designed for a full size 1911 might be pretty useful also, as it can carry a lot of different sized pistols.

    Just make sure if you get a "hook-up" that you let them know you will need ammo, and extra mags if possible as well. For some reason this seems to be a little overlooked item.

    I have gotten HK's, Sig's, Colt's, Glock's, damn near everything you can think of. Sometimes you can get specific, depending on who your dealing with, and others, you get what you get. Just keep in mind it will be expensive, and you will probably end up throwing the piece away when you leave, unless you find someone down there you would like to give it to.

    This post is gonna get the "squirrels" in a hissy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryD View Post
    If you must go, do you really want to risk your life over some local laws. Personally I just wouldn't go, but if you must, get a hook-up while your down there. Not hard to find really.

    But definatly bring some holsters with you for a few different pistols. I would bring a good belt and an IWB for a full size 1911, and mabye a couple different Glock sizes. The Glock's and 1911's seem to be pretty easy to get outside the country, but depending on who your dealing with, who knows what you may end up with. Also a Smartcarry designed for a full size 1911 might be pretty useful also, as it can carry a lot of different sized pistols.

    Just make sure if you get a "hook-up" that you let them know you will need ammo, and extra mags if possible as well. For some reason this seems to be a little overlooked item.

    I have gotten HK's, Sig's, Colt's, Glock's, damn near everything you can think of. Sometimes you can get specific, depending on who your dealing with, and others, you get what you get. Just keep in mind it will be expensive, and you will probably end up throwing the piece away when you leave, unless you find someone down there you would like to give it to.

    This post is gonna get the "squirrels" in a hissy.
    Due respect, but this is a great way to get into lots of trouble. I speak from personal experience. I have a friend who is awaiting trial in Juarez, Mexico and has been sitting in jail there for eleven years. He bought a pistol after crossing the border. At a check point, it was discovered and it turned out the gun had been used to kill a border patrol agent less that three weeks earlier. Guess what? In a country without the Bill of Rights, there isn't anything written about 'Right to a speedy trial', so even if you're innocent, they can hold you until they're damn good and ready to try you.

    I spent lots of time in Central and South America as a young man. Things have changed LOTS in twenty years, and the climate is NOT friendly to travelling Americans. If you're going as a tourist, you'd do well to stick to the run-of-the-mill resort stuff and stay out of the exotic areas.

    Jamaica is also a nightmare if you're not on a resort, and you can count on having issues with locals on many fronts.

    I'd suggest lounging on a beach at a resort for these parts of the world and save gallavanting about for the rustic, less conflicted places places.
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    Having lived and worked in the Caribbean I can tell you that following TerryD's advice in many of the islands can land you in a bad jail for an extended time, despite bribes. Maybe central America is different. Most people in the islands don't have guns, just the crooks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryD View Post

    This post is gonna get the "squirrels" in a hissy.
    I used to get in a hissy over this stuff until I figured out how the world works.

    The Caribbean is pretty easy... most places in C.America... dicey.
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    This thread is close to advocating illegal activity... and in retrospect I could see a couple of my posts approaching such a thing.

    I want to be clear that I do not condone, endorse or want to tell anyone how to break the law. There are many ways to protect yourself while traveling abroad... legally. In general, if you are really concerned, you should hire a driver and/or translator with a security background.

    Of course, in my opinion, if you are that concerned, you should only be going there for business or out of necessity. I don't vacation where I'm not safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Van View Post
    Due respect, but this is a great way to get into lots of trouble. I speak from personal experience. I have a friend who is awaiting trial in Juarez, Mexico and has been sitting in jail there for eleven years. He bought a pistol after crossing the border. At a check point, it was discovered and it turned out the gun had been used to kill a border patrol agent less that three weeks earlier. Guess what? In a country without the Bill of Rights, there isn't anything written about 'Right to a speedy trial', so even if you're innocent, they can hold you until they're damn good and ready to try you.

    I spent lots of time in Central and South America as a young man. Things have changed LOTS in twenty years, and the climate is NOT friendly to travelling Americans. If you're going as a tourist, you'd do well to stick to the run-of-the-mill resort stuff and stay out of the exotic areas.

    Jamaica is also a nightmare if you're not on a resort, and you can count on having issues with locals on many fronts.

    I'd suggest lounging on a beach at a resort for these parts of the world and save gallavanting about for the rustic, less conflicted places places.
    You make a VERY good point. Personally, I just wouldn't go, it's too much of a risk. And I can't think of any reason why I would have to leave the country anymore. If this is for a vacation, just do something stateside. This country has a lot to offer, with everything in between.

    Me and my wife were planning a trip to Egypt this coming fall, and we have thought long and hard about it. It is one of the "safer" middle eastern countries, as tourism means a lot to their economy. And even though I could "get what I needed" there, it's just way too much risk. And I even had 3 old Army buddies and they're wives going with us.

    Now I have this picture of our group walking in Cairo, the SHTF and we are pushing the wives behind cover, trying to spot the shooter, people screaming and running everywhere...

    This kind of situation is not something I have fond memories of, but if something like that did happen with my wife there...

    Maybe she would listen and take her self preservation more seriously.
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    Go to the Florida Keys Thats Caribbean and you can bring your gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro2A View Post
    Go to the Florida Keys Thats Caribbean and you can bring your gun.
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    It has been twenty years since I have been in the Caribbean, but back in the day I was into diving and I've been in most places down there. There were some islands off the beaten path where tourists never go that were very laid back and very enjoyable. I never saw anything that remotely resembled a threat. I'm sure it is still that way in those places. But all of the hot tourist spots attract shady characters of every stripe. The truth is that you aren't safe even on the resort beaches after dark. No walks in the moonlight. Jamaica (next to Haiti, but NOBODY goes there) is probably the worst of a bad lot. I would avoid it. A cruise ship is probably your best bet. Just stay with the sheep.

    I used to love Central America. I had even planned to retire there. But the political and social climate have changed and now I would go there only if I were traveling alone and was being paid well to go. It is just barely behind some of the African countries in terms of bad juju. Everybody in central America hates Americans, especially tourists, and that includes cops, judges, and presidents. You are fair game, a chicken just begging to be plucked. And if you were foolish enough to go there, dumb enough to buy a gun, and unlucky enough to have to use it to defend yourself, it would not be a righteous shoot under any circumstance. You would be a badly used, sick old man before you set foot in the USA again.

    There isn't a country in the world other than the USA where you could carry a concealed gun on your person legally. In all of them you would be at far greater risk from the authorities than you would ever be from the bad guys.
    As somebody suggested, spend your money in the US. Go to Key West. The only thing you'll have to sweat is being hit on by the gays.

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    There is a bit of an art to traveling in the third world outside of the major tourist zones. While I ran into many people who didn't like Americans I always found acceptance with the locals, most of whom flatly refused to believe that I was from the states. Many times I was told I was a true islander, no way I could be from the USA.

    Guns might be easy to get up island in the Caribbean in places like Jamaica, DR, PR and the like. You'll run a bit of a risk getting ratted out to the cops as well. Down island you're talking very small countries where everyone seems to know what's up. Buying an illegal weapon would be a very, very big risk. The guy you buy it from just probably will rat you out for some brownie points or a favor from a cop. We had a saying down island, "Justice is relative, if you have a relative who's a judge, cop or politician you'll get justice. Otherwise you're guilty. If you're from outside you're always guilty."

    But if you know how to act then you'll often find the locals will look out for you and protect you. Happened several times for me. Once I was even told were to go and the name to mention if I had to defend myself. I was told not even the chief of police would bother me there and I would be escorted to safety. But if you dress, talk, wear jewelry and act like a typical American down there you're just a sheep to be fleeced if you leave the protected tourist areas!

    I have friends who visit a wonderful off the track resort in Mexico. Even the locals are friendly since it is largely unknown. There are still some great places in the Caribbean as well, again largely unknown. Look for a tourist resort that is somewhere largely unheard of, learn how the locals act to be polite and pay compliments and learn how they dress, especially the women, and try to fit into their world. Heed the advice of the staff on where it's good to go and you'll have a great vacation without breaking any laws. Stay close to home at night. Oh, and stay the heck out of Trinidad as well. Really bad place these days.....
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    I believe a great many countries are "Guilty until proven innocent".

    If you are that concerned about your personal safety out of the USA, don't go. Even though statistically you are likely to go on your trip and have nothing happen, you are going to be miserable because your SA is going into overdrive and you can do nothing about it.

    If anything take an advance H2H self defense class against a weapon wielding opponent which will include disarming and incapacitation.
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