This is a discussion on What would knock a BG out? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by tns0038 Well…………………….. I was thinking more along the lines of two or three, thus leaving a few in the clip just in ...
There is no answer, other than the one you dont want. Nothing is going to be 100% sure to save your behind other than a good CNS hit.
Assuming we are talking about normal carry gun calibers, any of the good ones can do it.
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Well, if you want to stop the BG instantly from the front without any reflexive response action then your projectile must crash through to hit the brain stem.
You have to hit the apricot.
From behind - a solid hit to the center base of the skull with a .380 would do it but, it's a small target.
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The Taurus JUDGE in .410 at close range should do the trick.
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4 pound sledge hammer to the top of the skull.
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Given one shot to incapacitate the BG. Ya'll must remember, if it's during a close hand to hand encounter, ya'll probably won't have the opportunity to place the shot where ya want. It'll probably be a quick one, placed wherever ya can put it. Given, that scenerio, I think anything from a 9mm on up in size, will definitely get the BG's attention, long enough to put the second shot where it'll do the most good.
In Gunny Hathcock's biography, there is a passage describing an NVA soldier hit with a sniper round (probably .308) in the forehead; blew the top of the guy's head off, and yet the NVA staggered some thirty feet, AK trigger squeezed the whole way, until he went down.
A true, guaranteeable one-stop shot is possible, but incredibly difficult. If the gun is to my head, I'd probably try to knock the barrel away first. Old Sarge has a great point about where you could shoot from that close. If it was that hard to aim for something specific, I'd probably go for a downward shot, hoping to shatter the pelvis and at leeast drop the BG to the ground, if there was no way to get a good head shot.
Empty your mag if the threat is still there.
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You're all wrong.
The only way to ensure the BG goes down in the first hit, is to employ a roundhouse kick delivered by Chuck Norris.
The problem with that, Chuck Norris doesn't fit in your pocket and is liable to do great bodily harm to you if you try and put him in your pocket.
So I guess the next best option is to shoot until he drops. As many others have pointed out, there's no way to assure anything. I also think it's a misnomer to believe that a shot to the brain stem will necessarily stop someone. The whole thing is a big old crap shoot. You could get lucky.
IMO you shouldn't rely on shooting them. You need to do something to get their gun away from your melon and vitals at the same time.
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Seems like I've heard a few stories of soldiers surviving being hit by rocket-propelled grenades that didn't explode. I'm sure that made for a stressful surgery. Those things are much bigger than any handgun bullet available. So if you can’t guarantee a kill with an unexploded RPG round, I can’t see how any pistol round could be more effective. However, if you shot your assailant with an RPG round that did explode on contact, he probably wouldn’t move much. At least, not much after he finished landing.
The self-defense version of the Trunk Monkey is guaranteed to provide instant incapacitation of all BG's...
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Now .. they may have changed things since I was in but the Corps told us, lacking a frontal shot, place one right behind his ear - going for the brain stem. Not as much material and with any luck the shock wave would break the neck. But that was with a M-14, not one of these new fangled black thingies. But a pistol... good luck with that scenario.
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