Carrying to a friend's house
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January 29th, 2008 03:38 PM
Carrying to a friend's house
I am in the process of getting my CCL. I know when we go to the neighbor's house, as we often do for our kids to play or for the adults to play cards or visit, my wife is going to say not to carry over there. That's a hurdle I'm just going to have to deal with. (advice here would be helpful)
But I was wondering...has anyone ever been outed someone's house that you've known for a long time, what was their reaction and how was the situation handled? I could see some people throwing a fit saying "how could you bring that into my house" etc. and the relationship going downhill from there. I'm not sure how my neighbors or friends would feel about it, and I don't plan on being outed(concealed means concealed and all), but if the situation did arise I'm not sure how it would go down.
Anyone have this experience? Has anyone lost friends because of it, or realize you have another gun toting buddy to talk guns with?
Edit: Title should read Carrying to a friend's house
January 29th, 2008 03:42 PM
I have a couple of neighbors who are anti. If I am invited to their homes, I leave the pistol in the car. In this state, they can "ban" the carrying of guns on their property, but though we "agree to disagree" on the overall issue, to me courtesy and respect for the persons trumps assertiveness.
I do feel nekked though.
January 29th, 2008 03:49 PM
I agree with jongle in that I will leave the weapon in my car. I am not going to ruin a friendship over his gun "position". (I don't have that many real friends so the few I have are good ones).
January 29th, 2008 03:53 PM
hard call, i woundn't want you to say or do something youmight regeat
later. me personally,haven't had any issuses from the wife about where
i carry(legally)or friends,neiabors, but like you said and we all know,
concealed is concealed. i wish you luck in your desicions.
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January 29th, 2008 04:05 PM
In SC, one is NOT allowed to carry a weapon(concealed or not) without the express approval of the homeowner. That eliminates a lot of the guesswork for us. So, in the car it goes(or at home).....
January 29th, 2008 04:07 PM
There, fixed the title for you!
I have not run into this problem yet as most of the time my good friends (the ones in whose home I would be welcome) are introduced to my carry status long before I ever go to their home.
Case in point. I met two very nice gals down here shortly after moving. We went out to eat together and seeing as how we were all new to the area we chose a restaurant none of us was familiar with. When we got there we discovered they served alcohol there. Via Virginia law I was not to carry concealed into the restaurant. I had two choices: let them in on my little secret, or somehow try to cleverly hide my gun in the car while they both watched.
I chose the former.
Turns out they were both completely fine with it. Since then I have been to both of their homes and they know that I am armed. They have been completely fine with it and one of my new-found friends has even expressed interest in learning carry herself.
I think that if I were to discover that someone I DIDN'T know was carrying in my home I might be a little leery, but if they were a friend and someone I had good experiences with I would be perfectly fine with them carrying in my residence.
But then again, I'm biased.
For an anti I'd just leave it outside or invite them over to my home. For someone who doesn't have a lot of experience with guns and might not feel the same way, I might actually try to bring up the question in a round about way and, in essence, ask permission. It seems like the polite thing to do.
January 29th, 2008 04:07 PM
I guess it’s different in the south.
Because all my neighbors I hang with are gun friendly, and we all go armed when we go Harley riding together, and we go to the range together.
However, I really don’t make it a point of carrying when I walk over to see them, but then again, I don’t go out of my way to take it out of my pocket, or off my hip if it was already there.
January 29th, 2008 04:37 PM
I would ask first, that would take a lot of the guessing out of the way, and you would be on firm ground then it would be up to you if you carried or not. I carry to my neighbord house, but that is because they like to look at my weapon and one of them is bed riden and can't come over to my olace to see it. He gets a kick out of the fact that It is concealed and always asked me if I have it on me, I suprise him every time I pull it out, he never sees it on me.
January 29th, 2008 05:13 PM
Unfortunately, it's a moot point here in Arkansas. We are required by law to inform the homeowner that we are carrying before we enter their domicile and can be told to disarm before entering. The only time I've ever been forced to disarm when entering a private residence is at my mom's house.
January 29th, 2008 05:14 PM
I had an experience with this very early in my "carrying career" if you will.
I went hiking with my girlfriend, where I was carrying openly (legal in AZ). We stopped by a friend of hers on the way home and I threw on a shirt to conceal the gun. I was helping to move some stuff around in the house and, wabam my piece gets shown when my shirt gets caught on a bannister. The lady of the house was a bit taken aback and the man of the house pulled me aside as we were leaving and suggested that I was not welcome in their house when carrying, mostly due to his 2 small children, and not because he was particularly anti. To a certain degree this "accidental outing" was my fault for not being particularly skilled in concealment at the time, and being overly confident that I was in the right and not being concerned about the potential bad things that could happen. I have since grown up a bit.
Then later in life, I went to a dinner at my aunt's house, she is as anti as they come, my aunt told me, without knowing that I was armed, that I was never ever welcome in her home or around her in any location with a firearm in my posession.
In the first case, it was not a major issue as I really never had any intent to return to the family's house again.
In the second case, both my wife and I are close to my aunt. They live 20 minutes away. When I go to their house, I leave it in the car or don't carry at all. When we go out in public together, I carry in a deep cover manner, and when at my house with them I do not carry openly or concealed. For me it is more important to maintain the relationship than to offend for the sake of making a point. My aunt likely knows that when in public that I am armed and either chooses to ignore it or doesn't care as much as she lead on.
As has been previously stated, concealed should be concealed. And choose your battles.
January 29th, 2008 08:19 PM
As far as friends go, carrying is a non-issue. (I don't think I have any friends that don't own any guns, although one just has a shotgun for hd as there is no carry in MD). That said, all of my friends prefer that I carry, as most of them do as well. My sister on the other hand is a different story, she insists there be no guns anywhere around her kids, doesn't mind me carrying around her. Which to me makes no sense when she has watched her car get broken into in her own driveway!! So, although I may not agree with her, I do disarm so I can go see my niece and nephew.
January 29th, 2008 08:33 PM
I probably would not bring it at first. You should try bringing up the topic of guns and concealed carry to your friend in a casual conversation, and if he or she have negative views about guns then you know not to bring it to their home.
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January 29th, 2008 11:18 PM
First, NOBODY I come in personal contact with except a member of this forum and my wife knows I carry.
I have a number of reasons for his. One of the main reasons is because of this very subject.
I carry everywhere I can do so legally 24/7/365, including people's homes.
My personal feeling on it is - "What they don't know, won't bother them". If the SHTF they may be glad I was carrying, if it doesn't - no harm/no foul.
As always... just my opinion,
BTW, there are a few other personal things I don't talk about to anybody besides whether I carry or not. Some things are just no one else's business.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other"
January 29th, 2008 11:25 PM
January 29th, 2008 11:45 PM
Sorry to tell this story, my sweetheart and I were on a cruise and met a couple from Ca.
The reason they were on the cruise was heartwrenching, about a year earlier a bunch of friends and family were together playing games etc. another friends garage/house and some BG's(gang bangers) showed up w/guns drawn demanding $$$$ and a car because the other car they had jacked ran out of gas or broke down!
Everybody cooperated and they still started to shoot them!!!
I can't remember how many lost thier lives but I do know that it really p' ed me off.
They all have thier ccw's now.
It was about the one yr mark of the tragedy and they just had to leave town and do something fun.
These were really good people, and I hope they are doing well.
If I can legally carry........I DO!!!!
Only my closest friends and family know that I allways carry, other than that I'm going to have to be "made".
Nobody should ever have to experience a tragedy like this.
It says "The right to bear arms" , not permission granted!!!!!
Planting seeds in the hearts of children........will ultimately bring change in the future!!!
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