Car-carry under leg: oops.

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    Car-carry under leg: oops.

    I took wife, daughter, and her friend to the new U23D movie yesterday - it was great. Beats all to pieces standing in line, getting crushed by the crowd, and paying for the tickets for a real concert.

    I made my own IWB tuckable which is nearly impossible to reholster without dropping 'trou. So to avoid distubing the ladies and spooking the horses, after retrieving the pistol from the trunk I just tucked it under my right leg and draped something over the exposed grip. All was well until we stopped for gas.

    I dutifully pried myself out of the car and pumped the gas while my wife trotted inside to powder her nose or something. I was ten steps toward the building following her when I realized that I was unarmed - oops. I returned to the car and, amid mild giggles from the back seat, I muttered ruefully, "Yes... I know... 'bad form'...".

    Bad from a SD standpoint, bad if a BG had sauntered by to see what looked like an unattended weapon in the front seat, and bad because (I'm guessing) the two eighteen-year-olds in the back seat were now legally in control of one exposed and one concealed weapon (wife left her fanny-pack in the car, too).

    I'm pleased that the guest didn't freak out (my daughter chooses good friends), but felt I should pass this on so the next guy who car-carries under his leg might remember my embarassment and save some of his own.

    And maybe I'll get a real holster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paymeister View Post
    And maybe I'll get a real holster.
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    I agree you need a different form of carry because what you got ain't working for you!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paymeister View Post
    Bad from a SD standpoint, bad if a BG had sauntered by to see what looked like an unattended weapon in the front seat, and bad because (I'm guessing) the two eighteen-year-olds in the back seat were now legally in control of one exposed and one concealed weapon (wife left her fanny-pack in the car, too).
    You are lucky no one walked by and freaked out calling the police about teo young girls being held captive while the bg were stopped at a gas station taking a break. After all the weapons were there to watch the girls and we all know girls can't handle guns You are lucky though that all was cool. a good holster for next time and more thinking is a good idea. BTW poke at the wife too... she should know better then to leave her weapon in the car like that.

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    Remember the FBI fiasco where their guns went skittering across the floorboards when they needed them the most!

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    Go read limatunes blog in the blog section on choosing a holster and gun.
    You got lucky this once.

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    FBI thread

    Another thread running here:
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ting-read.html

    Note that Agent Manauzzi was carrying his gun under his leg while driving and lost it. Still got wounded but was unable to find his gun and had no BUG like several of the other agents. Never fired a shot in the most famous gunfight.

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    I don't even understand why you weren't carrying the whole time in a real holster.
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    It could be worse, at least you didn't drop your pants in front of the guest to reholster. Weren't guns allowed in the theatre you visited?

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    Thanks

    A big thanks to Paymeister for revealing what many would have kept to themselves. We can all benefit from an occasional inventory of our habits.

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    I have to agree with the others, get a good holster.

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    +1 for what Wlynn said- I don't know that I would have admitted it, so thanks for sharing.

    I have a long commute, so car carry is something I have thought about a lot. For me, having the gun off of my body is a bad idea, because I figure in a situation where a firearm is needed I may have to leave the car in a hurry. Also car accidents could be bad with a loose pistol.

    I use a Ross leather holster made for sitting, a safepacker, or an ankle rig while driving.

    Good luck on your hunt for a new holster ;)
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    Couple of replies

    I don't even understand why you weren't carrying the whole time in a real holster.
    Strictly a cash thing: we're a one-income family nearly out of debt (my fault, going into debt and failing to dig out 'til now), and I consider myself darned lucky to have a carry gun at all given our financial situation. A proper holster will certainly be my next purchase of any significance. Thanks, all, for confirming the wisdom of such a purchase.

    Weren't guns allowed in the theatre you visited?
    Nope, per http://www.ncdoj.com/DocumentStreame...irearmsPub.pdf,
    North Carolina law also prohibits any person carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission...a concealed handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas.
    The IMAX theater was at a kid's museum at the edge of downtown Raleigh, NC, bordering a very seedy-looking neighborhood (complete with occasional groups of thugs on corners). I originally parked in a nearly empty multiple-story garage, then before the show started I re-parked in a lot I discovered just behind the museum. This lot was out in the open like suburban strip-mall parking, bordered along one long side by a pretty busy street. Being a matinee we left before dark but I was still on serious alert (with OC in one hand and metal flashlight in the other). Odd - I used to work in the bad sections of Los Angeles and thought nothing of it, but that was when I was young, single, invincible and stupid. Now, older, I have a family and know I'm vulnerable; I'm working on the last part.

    This afternoon I thought of another way to handle feeling a strong need to carry between parking structure and museum vs. the need to stay legal in the theatre: I could have driven or escorted the family to the show, and sent them in and lounged about (or visited a local gun shop or coffee house) until it was over. Then I could have met them at the door with their ride, or escorted them back to the car. Would I have given up watching the show to do a better job protecting them? Of course! The show wasn't my highest priority just then with all of the alarm bells going off in my head. I just hadn't broadened my options wide enough to consider that as a possibility.

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    A good holster, will be much less costly than a small mistake...keep your sidearm ON you...

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    Time to reevaluate your carry practices and make a few changes.

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