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    Nine state lawmakers permitted to carry concealed weapons


    HELENA, Mont. (AP) -- Nine Montana state lawmakers have concealed weapons permits but most of them say they seldom carry a weapon.

    One who does is state Rep. Ed Butcher, R-Winifred, Montana's Lee Newspapers reported Sunday.

    "I carry at all times," Butcher said in a recent interview.

    Today, Butcher carries a .38 caliber pistol, but back in 1979 it was a .22 handgun that saved his life when a man was coming at him and, Butcher believes, intended to kill him.

    "He didn't think I carried a gun," he said. Butcher pulled out his .22 pistol and held it to the man's forehead. "You've never seen eyes get so big so fast," Butcher told the Lee State Bureau in Helena.

    The man backed down and Butcher has never again drawn his concealed pistol.

    Since 1991, state law has allowed Montanans to pay $50 and apply for a permit to carry a concealed handgun. County sheriffs issue the permits after conducting a background check and requesting proof of some kind of gun training.

    Today, 15,976 Montanans have a concealed weapons permit, or about 2 percent of the state's adult population. State lawmakers, however, are almost three times more likely to have a concealed weapons permit. The Lee Newspapers found that, while not one statewide elected official has a concealed weapons permit, nine of the 150 lawmakers do, or 6 percent of the total.

    State legislators with concealed weapon permits are Butcher; Rep. Edward Hilbert, R-Glendive; Rep. Rick Jore, C-Ronan; Rep. Roger Koopman, R-Bozeman; Rep. Janna Taylor, R-Proctor; Rep. Craig Witte, R-Kalispell; Sen. Ken Hansen, D-Harlem; Sen. Terry Murphy, R-Cardwell; and Sen. Joe Tropila, D-Great Falls.

    Hilbert is a captain in the Montana Highway Patrol and, by law, is allowed to carry a concealed handgun even without a permit.

    Proctor Republican Rep. Janna Taylor is the only woman in the Legislature with a concealed weapons permit. An avid bird hunter, Taylor said she is good with a gun. She got her permit about four years ago so she would have "a little extra protection" on her long trips to Helena and back when the Legislature was in session.

    Rep. Rick Jore of Ronan, the Legislature's lone Constitution Party member, said he rarely carries his pistol with him, but believes he should have the right to, regardless.

    Many lawmakers got their concealed weapons permits for similar reasons: the desire to protect themselves, if necessary, and a philosophical belief in the right of citizens to arm themselves if they so choose.

    Sen. Terry Murphy, R-Cardwell, has had a permit since shortly after they became widely available. He said most lawmakers have to travel long distances commuting to and from Helena and may want one for protection on the road.

    "You just never know who you're going to run into," Murphy said.


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    Glad to hear it. Not happy they decided to print the names of the permit holders, unless they agreed to it. Elected officials or not, they do have some privacy rights.
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    +1.

    I dont want anyone to know I am carrying....sometimes....not even my wife, but I guess you guys know, now...lol

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    Excellent. Montana is a great state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperKnight View Post
    Glad to hear it. Not happy they decided to print the names of the permit holders, unless they agreed to it. Elected officials or not, they do have some privacy rights.
    +1 People with carry permits don't like their names available to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyo-man View Post
    +1 People with carry permits don't like their names available to the public.

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    Well, that's true, but (a), it is public record in Montana, and (b) when one is elected to public office, his or her name becomes public, like it or not.


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    Montana Law and other States Laws need to be changed to ensure privacy of individuals elected or not.

    At some point laws become stupid when the laws make individuals and their families targets.

    CWP's in Montana should not be public record, whether elected or not, effects one's personal and family security.

    If an individual or family member is attacked or stalked because of this so called public records information, the State Gov, AG, and many others should be sued in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post

    HELENA, Mont. (AP) -- Nine Montana state lawmakers have concealed weapons permits but most of them say they seldom carry a weapon.

    One who does is state Rep. Ed Butcher, R-Winifred, Montana's Lee Newspapers reported Sunday.

    "I carry at all times," Butcher said in a recent interview.
    Good for him - wonder why the others seldom do. Guess their crystal ball tells them when they'll need it.
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