A few months ago a coworker that passed himself as a friend found out that I have a CCW permit. From that time he started watching me closely to see if he could spot me printing. Well if you study something long enough you will usually find what you are looking for, and he did. We were alone in his office and he told me that he could see the print and we talked briefly about it. Two days later the Operations Manager called me out and informed me that he had “heard a rumor” that I was carrying and that it was making the complainant nervous. Because only one person knew I was carrying it was not hard to figure out where the “rumor” came from.
Fast forward to yesterday. This EX-friend and his constant companion (the Warehouse Manager) fired one of our drivers. The driver is about 6’7” tall and weighs in at 290 pounds and is not fat. During firing him the ex-friend popped off with some pretty off color and rude remarks that angered the driver. They then escorted the driver to my office to fill out termination paperwork. My ex-friend came in first and told me that the driver was getting belligerent and angry and told me to be on my guard to help constrain him should he become violent. He then indicated that if I was carrying it might just come in handy! To clarify; it made him nervous that I carry, but when he felt threatened he comes running to me for protection!
I told him “sorry, but you made sure that I could not carry here months ago!” Besides I was certain that the driver would not become violent to any of the women in the office or to me as he saw me as a friend. So if he had become violent it would have been against the two that were his tormentors and I was prepared to enjoy the show. I was not carrying but if I had I would not have used my G19 to save those two from a much deserved beating. On his way out the driver shook my hand and said it was great working with me.
I guess it really does go to show you - always carry, never tell - that old adage is true. I'm pretty new to concealed carry, but so far the only people that know are my parents, my best friend, and my girlfriend. I think I'll keep the list at that.
Thanks for sharing your experience, it's good food for thought.
I hope your co-worker gets his head out of his @#$% soon.
Nice post here but still a lesson learned.
I'm 60 years old and I've learned that best friends don't keep secrets if they are no longer best friends. There are only 3 people that I truly trust .. my two sons and myself.
I told him “sorry, but you made sure that I could not carry here months ago!” Besides I was certain that the driver would not become violent to any of the women in the office or to me as he saw me as a friend. So if he had become violent it would have been against the two that were his tormentors and I was prepared to enjoy the show. I was not carrying but if I had I would not have used my G19 to save those two from a much deserved beating.
well with afriend like that,who needs enemies. never heard of anyone
actually waiting and watching,hopeing someones weapon will print.
first of all, what a moron,and second,somebodys got to much time
on thier hands. excellant responce on you're part. well done.
Indeed---everyday life is pretty cool until---you have to deal with stupid stuff and the people that generate it. Keep distancing yourself from this worm (ex-friend). One of these days, he'll step in his own poo, and you'll be there to see it. By the way---be more discrete in the future as to who "finds out". Good luck dealing.
First of all, your response was excellent. Couldn't have said it better myself. The only person that knows that I carry is my family and one close friend. And he has a CWP as well, but oddly doesn't own a gun. None of my other close friends know that I am armed. I don't want to take a chance that they will start something that they expect me to finish.
You could always let him know not to worry. If the fired driver comes in looking to commit violence you will tell him exactly where your former friend and operations manager are so nobody gets hurt. In fact if he asks you might even be inclined to tell him their addresses so he doesn't need to come to the office.
Great response. In fact its almost worth getting put in your situation to be able to say to someone who snitches you out.
In addition to not telling anyone I also never ask anyone if they are carrying. Its none of my business. Even if I'm driving and we are going to the range with guns in the car. Carrying isn't my business.
Unfortunately you're not alone in this one. I see it regularly as well. I was discovered inadvertently a good while back at work. My employers made it quite clear that I wasn't to carry in the office and I needed to at least move it to my vehicle outside. Needless to say I chose my life over my job, and they KNOW this. They just can't prove it because they haven't seen it.
The funny thing is that everytime they go to can someone, they call me and tell me to be on alert if it's a person they think might go postal. Go figure
The funny thing is that everytime they go to can someone, they call me and tell me to be on alert if it's a person they think might go postal. Go figure
He found out because he was in the office when I needed to leave early to go get finger printed and the manager needed a reason to let me off early. I did not think anything about telling them about going to get finger printed for CCW because at that time they were both pretty cool and we had been to the range several times together.
As it turned out it was both of these guys that conspired to get my gun banned at work. Their ultimate goal is to get me banned at work. Although I would have hated to see the driver get in trouble for assault I would have loved to see him beat those two with in an inch of their lives. The funny part is that I could have controlled the situation, not with a gun but with a word!
"My ex-friend came in first and told me that the driver was getting belligerent and angry and told me to be on my guard to help constrain him should he become violent." Since when is this the job of any employee other than a security guard? I am with you, they can deal with the consequences of their stupidity themselves and don't count on me to be their guardian.
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