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    On the brighter side of human nature, traffic was a little slow on the way home from work today because of the long caravan of electric company cherry pickers, some from Indiana. They were headed south, and definitely on a misson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter
    Let's Leave It At The Fact That There Will Probably Be Even More Looting and that things will get a whole lot worse before they get any better...
    If something similar...like a 3 Mile Island or a Bio~Terror Attack were to happen in a different area of the country it would likely be a totally different segment of the population acting like predatory wolves.
    The hungry wolves are everywhere and they wear many types of wolf clothing.
    I know that you will all pay attention to the forum rules.
    There is no world shortage of albino wolves who will also take every opportunity to feed on the helpless and the innocent.
    Dire situations, mayhem, chaos, and a breakdown of Law & Order always create predators and takers.
    It has been that way since before the Ice Age & it is not idiosyncratic to any specific segment of any human population.
    I won't disagree with a senior moderator of the group. In fact I actually agree with your statements. There are elements in any society that will use the chaos of a disaster to their own advantage regardless of color, ethnicity, geographic location or cultural background. This breakdown can happen in any city, of any country in any part of the world... and has! Look at Bosnia, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, the middle east and Central/South America for recent examples. That being said, I will not play the Political Correctness game and I will call them as I see them. My personal comments on the current situation in New Orleans are based on the personal experience of living there for many years, knowing many people who've lived there their whole lives and watching the reports of where most the problems seem to be occurring. As I said, though I'm disappointed and saddened by the violence that is happening in New Orleans, I'm not surprised. On the other hand, I'm greatly heartened by the countless acts of selflessness and self sacrifice that are happening almost by the minute there. While there ARE some people who will use the misery of others for their own good, it's inspiring to know there are still many, many more people who will come to the aid of others in times of crisis, without thought to their own well being, rather than taking advantage of it.
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    Another terriorist attack ?? Told the wife when the count in the astrodome was 15K"what a perfect place". The overpressure would kill/maim thousands. How 'bout this ...fly in some of those Asians that were equipped and had the resolve to protect their buisnesses during the L.A. riots. ---Anyway--- Good luck NOLA.------------

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    The upside

    Quote Originally Posted by Betty
    On the brighter side of human nature, traffic was a little slow on the way home from work today because of the long caravan of electric company cherry pickers, some from Indiana. They were headed south, and definitely on a misson.
    Yes, I've also noticed the traffic here seems to be a bit lighter and the lines shorter the past day or two. Maybe that $3 plus a gallon gas will have an upside to it after all! Lets see how it looks Friday when the Labor Day weekend starts and all the "one more family outing before autumn" trips begin.
    "... Americans... we want a safe home, to keep the money we make and shoot bad guys." -- Denny Crane

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    Post To all Members.

    Any forum member can disagree with me at any time and on any forum thread topic.
    Naturally, I like it better when folks agree with me but, your disagreement is fine with me also.
    I am just extremely happy to have your active participation.
    I'm a rough tuff cream~puff & I sure can handle folks not agreeing with me.
    I am not very keen on political correctness myself.
    If a forum member can be politically incorrect & still stay within the forum rules & regs...then that's fine.
    The specific forum rules that I'm talking about are the rules that every member (including myself) agrees (in advance) to adhere to when they join this forum.
    Those Rules Would Be As Follows:
    No Personal Attacks On Other Forum Members.
    No Swearing or Foul Language.
    No Racial Or Ethnic Slurs.
    No Pornographic, Obscene Or Graphic Nudity.
    The forum does not belong to me. The forum belongs to the administrator & it's his private home that he has opened up to all of us ~ as guests in his home.
    The administrator has set the rules for his house.
    When you are guest in somebody's house you follow the "house rules" that you have agreed to follow BEFORE you walked in the front door...or you leave the house.
    Nothing could be more simple than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier762
    I've just read that there are bands of looters in the BIG EASY that have specifically targeted the GUN STORES and that the French Quarter (this is the term used) is "UNDER ATTACK."
    Soon we should be hearing calls for legislation to ban gun stores.

    Those good folks who are victims of this misfortune are in my thoughts and prayers.

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    I heard a report on CNN earlier that a looter shot a cop in the face. THe officer survived, the looter is a "victim of Katrina?"

    The one thing I heard on the news the day of the hurricane was that the NG was searching people for weapons. You could NOT carry your personal protection into the SUPERDOME! So, the guns were left to be looted!!!
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    That is something that has been in the back of my mind, the anti's coming up and using this to ban all guns and more people agreeing with them enough to get it passed.

    Wayne

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    Question Opposite Effect? A Thought

    Maybe the anti's will FINALLY see why people need firearms...if they are watching & paying attention close enough.
    I can dream can't I ?

    An additional thought:
    I am pretty much already "in tune" with basic survival. I used to spend a lot of time "out & about" and totally alone & usually for 2 to 3 weeks at a pop.
    The exact details of how this particular situation is eroding & degrading are fascinating to me. Heart wrenching but, captivating at the same time. The best of humans and the worst of humans tossed into the same deadly, filthy soup & all needing to somehow fend for themselves...for an unknown while anyway. It's a direct look into the mirror of a possible future terror attack ~ only this attack having been created by Mother Nature.
    Last edited by QKShooter; August 31st, 2005 at 07:53 PM.

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    A sobering experience

    I, like all of you, have been following the stories of the misery, devastation, and magnitude of the disaster. I also was not surprised to hear about the looting, and lawlessness, which will probably get a lot worse before it gets under control. Being somewhat older than many of you, I remember vividly that in my youth, whenever there was a disaster, the word was out that looters would be shot on sight. I recall seeing the old newsreels in theatres where NG troops patrolled with orders to shoot looters. Does anyone else remember this. I want to scream at all these officials and newscasters on the tube and ask them, "what about how we used to shoot looters on sight! Have you considered this?" If we have a terrorist nuclear strike or a large scale chemical strike, we all better be prepared to take care of ourselves. The goverenment folks may be well intentioned, but theyu usually are not too effective. A few prayers for the poor folks involved in this disaster would sure be in order.

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    Well, I certainly don't expect anyone to play any political correctness games here since I am about the most politically incorrect guy I know. Just re-read the rules and leave it unsaid because we aren't going there on this forum. It's not what we are about....
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    To return to the topic of New Orleans, many people may argue with me about it, this disaster unfolding in N.O will make the 9/11 attack look like a minor disturbance by comparison. In fact, the closest things to the situation happening in N.O. right now would be the Chicago fire back in the 1800's or the San Francisco earthquake of 1906. Both cities were destroyed by fire and that appears to be starting in New Orleans as we speak. Actually, San Francisco, which is often compared to N.O. as a more European style city rather than being your typical American one, survived a natural disaster, then was destroyed afterward. In both cases (S.F. & Chicago)the "authorities" stood by while the cities went up in flames and didn't move in until after it was all but over, leaving people to fend for themselves. Sound familiar to anyone watching the news the past few days!

    When the @#*! hits the fan, like it has down in N.O., there is only one person you can count on for sure being there to cover your butt... YOU! I'll never advocate taking the law into your own hands or becoming a vigilante, but if it comes to me and mine, the first time someone trys to harm them or me, they will find the true meaning of the phrase "in your face" and it will come out of the barrel of a .45 or a 12 gauge shotgun.
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    rachilders, I would agree with you in your above post. Just to add....the phrase"taking the law into your own hands"makes me wonder---Hmmmm---if there is no law then what does society in general and LEO's expect you and me(the good folks on this forum)to do about the situation ?? Also the word "vigilante". Back in the old (lawless) west,groups of vigilante's(IMO) got the job done. They saved a heck of allot of lives and they saved a heck of allot of property. To me(depending on the situation)it's not such a dirty word.------------

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    the phrase"taking the law into your own hands"
    I did a thread on just this phrase.

    Even if laws still exist - if you have to single-handedly defend self and family (cos no-one else can or will) then there is no law breaking, or ''taking of law'' - it is excercizing of innate rights.

    Plus - when things get real desperate - survival comes first - and arguing the toss on legal minutiae can be done later
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjm5874
    I heard a report on CNN earlier that a looter shot a cop in the face. THe officer survived, the looter is a "victim of Katrina?"

    The one thing I heard on the news the day of the hurricane was that the NG was searching people for weapons. You could NOT carry your personal protection into the SUPERDOME! So, the guns were left to be looted!!!
    Today as I was listening to the news there were stories about roving gangs in side the Dome, There is no way I would have left my personal protection to go to the Dome or anywhere else you could not defend yourself. I have stood in my yard with flood water up to my crotch and it was still raining, I did not leave my place. Now I got to admit I still had a house, no running water or toilets or heat but I had shelter and I made the rest work, it was also for only 3 days so we made it.
    I guess I just could not see myself being hearded up and forced to go somewhere with no way to stay alive.
    I'm also VERY happy I'm not in N.O.
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