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Thanks Captain, I read both threads. Good information and ideas.
since I'm just an average joe, I figure that my primary is my backup, since my first line of defense is situational awareness and avoidance. I can't imagine needing a second gun as a civilian unless I really let my imagination go.
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I don't have enough room on my person to carry the stuff I already carry let alone to carry a BUG. Between my wallet, phone, keys, KO Chive knife and whatever else depending on where I'm going, there isn't much room left after I add in whatever main gun I'm pocket carrying.
I agree that as a civilian, I'm hoping one gun with some good awareness is enough. Maybe carrying an extra mag might work but I'm hoping I won't need that many shots. Lots of hoping going on there. I've also got a NAA PUG (and a Seecamp .380 on order) that I could possibly carry as a BUG in a pocket or on my ankle if I'm dressed so I can skip pocket carry of my main gun and go IWB with it.
Living in Florida and with the clothes that I usually wear doesn't allow me a lot of options without being obvious.
Very seldom..... I'll usually carry a knife in addition to my edc K9, but not a second gun. Just seems over the top for my usual perceived threat level.
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I'd only carry a BUG if I had some reason to doubt the reliability of my primary carry. As long as it happily digests my preferred carry ammo, I see no reason for a BUG in most situations.
Exceptions might be scenarios such as, when wearing a heavy winter jacket, keeping a little snubby in the outside pocket (because your primary could take a while to get to with winter clothing on, using an IWB holster), or etc...
A spare magazine however is a different story. The magazine is one of the weakest points in many semiauto pistol designs, so carrying a spare makes good sense. Also gives you the ability to do a tactical reload should the situation ever arise (BG takes cover for a sec, so swap magazines before he re-emerges, or etc...)
Just my inflation-adjusted two cents.
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Good points about having a spare mag with you. Never thought of that.
I will be carrying my S&W 642 as a BUG once I get my Glock 19. It would be much easier to get to when sitting in a vehicle than my primary. That is my main reason for wanting to carry a BUG.
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Why? Several reasons:
Anything mechanical can break. If I need to pull my only gun and it doesn't work, depending on the attack, I'm likely dead. 2 is 1, 1 is none.
I don't get to pick the time and place of an encounter, nor the number of attackers. Grabbing a second gun is faster for me than reloading.
I want a gun available to either hand, in case my strong hand/arm is injured.
"If I have a gunfight forced upon me, I intend to win it." (Borrowed the quote, forgot who said it.)
You can carry as many as you can carry. I carry two most of the time, a Ruger P345, and a Bersa 45UC or a beretta 9000s 40 cal.
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I've never heard of a reload in a civilian defensive shooting. To my knowledge, it never happens. Thus I don't carry extra ammo.
Which is more valuable, a extra magazine for a gun that just jammed or broke, or a second weapon ready to roll into action. To me, in comparison to the size and weight of an extra mag as compared to my BUG Seecamp...I'd rather have a fully functional gun instead of just more ammo.
I do not adhere to some of the latest defensive theory floating around. Much of it is oriented to police work, not civilian protection. I cringe when I see videos of folks practicing reloads while advancing on a target, or worse yet..."clearing rooms". Real life events are much more violent and short lived. Fights happen in seconds.
When I had cause or reason to carry a BUG I did, but that is rare. Those reasons are largely over in my life, but if I again felt the need, I'd carry a BUG before I'd carry a reload. More practical and useful.
You may not have heard of a stoppage in a civilian gunfight; however, that doesn't mean it can't/won't happen. You've no doubt seen stoppages on the range, and your gun obviously can't think "wow, this is pretty important...better make sure I work properly right now..."
However, you have your ideas and I have mine--not worth an extended discussion, since we're both thinking adults.