No CCW Sign at a gunshop

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    No CCW Sign at a gunshop

    I have been doing business with a particular Florida gunshop for a few years now. The shop recently changed hands and while entering it a few days ago I was greeted with a sign which read "No loaded firearms permitted including concealed carry weapons". My Kahr MK9 was well concealed in my IWB holster so I entered anyway. Needless to say this shop just lost anymore business from me.
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    I don't like it, but I understand it. How many times do the employees get swept by inexperienced shooters saying "I need ammo for this" or "Do you have a holster to fit this?"

    In Jax, every gun shop that I'm aware of (except the big chains like Gander Mtn.) has a no carry policy.

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    Did you tell the owner that about 50% of all the normal business will stop because of that sign? Do so and see what they say.
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    I felt the same way until I read about the recent ND in a gun shop.

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    The shop closest to me has a similar sign prohibiting loaded firearms inside.

    I unload my carry gun in the parking lot, put the magazine in my pocket, and re-holster.

    While I don't particularly like the policy, I do understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesteel View Post
    Needless to say this shop just lost anymore business from me.
    My thoughts exactly.

    It's victim disarmament, despite being attempted for an ostensibly good cause. Pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    I felt the same way until I read about the recent ND in a gun shop.

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    If I remember right, that ND was caused by an employee of the shop......no?

    Concealed means concealed.

    Having said that, I don't frequent the shops that don't respect my right to carry.

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    I should point out that the store I am referring to has a range in it - so the "no loaded firearms" prohibition in the store area is probably intended to keep people from bringing a hot firearm off the range (they rent to the public).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson View Post
    I should point out that the store I am referring to has a range in it - so the "no loaded firearms" prohibition in the store area is probably intended to keep people from bringing a hot firearm off the range (they rent to the public).

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    Sure does.



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    Quote Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
    If I remember right, that ND was caused by an employee of the shop......no?
    If the one near me is the incident you are thinking of, then yes it was caused by the employee. The discharge was at the range area of the shop and not in the sales area at all. The employee was trying to clear a firearm with a jammed live round in it.
    This same gunshop has a sign that doesn't explicitly say "no ccw", instead it says please "clear and lock open all weapons prior to entering". Most people myself included simply ignore the sign. I have never had employees say anything to me, even after I pull out, clear, and hand over my ccw at the counter.
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    I can see a policy towards keeping CCH concealed, or a not handling loaded firearms or something of that sort but to prohibit concealed carry is not the right way to go about it and they would not get any of my business.

    Before you jump on me I do have a firing range, I do allow CCH on the range and anywhere else on the property. The policy is concealed carry firearms stay concealed until at the range and you are ready to fire them.

    That simple, if they can be trusted with a gun at WalMart or McDonalds why can they not be trusted in a gun shop? If a customer has a gun handling issue correct it on the spot like you would at any other place you might encounter the issue.
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    The sign reads, Hi guys we don't want your business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaystekan View Post
    This same gunshop has a sign that doesn't explicitly say "no ccw", instead it says please "clear and lock open all weapons prior to entering". Most people myself included simply ignore the sign. I have never had employees say anything to me, even after I pull out, clear, and hand over my ccw at the counter.
    I just don't get it. If the shop it genuinely worried about the possibility of an ND, they should realize that the great majority of ND's occur during loading/unloading......not too many happen while the weapon is sitting safely in it's holster minding it's own business. The last thing I want going on in the parking lot outside, is for every third customer to be clearing their weapon before entering and then reloading upon leaving......

    Maybe it's just me.

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    I would make one last visit to the store. Tell the owner you are shopping for a new carry gun, holster, and accessories. Then tell him that because of his policy against CCW and his seeming lack of support of 2A you wil be taking your business elsewhere, permanently. He wouldn't get a dime of my money again, and I would actively spread the word to my buddies about avoiding a shop that doesn't support 2A.

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