This is a discussion on Empty Holster within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I prefer to fight the fight where I can behind the scenes ( writing congressmen etc ). I dont want anyone to know I carry. ...
February 17th, 2008 10:52 PM
I prefer to fight the fight where I can behind the scenes ( writing congressmen etc ). I dont want anyone to know I carry. I might do it somewhere where people don't know me.
February 18th, 2008 08:09 AM
Really?!! I think you overestimate the mass intelligence.
Originally Posted by Thumper
My thinking is that there isn't anything an empty holster does to influence someone's way of thinking. In fact, a t-shirt probably would have a greater impact. And really, when is the last time a shirt changed YOUR vote?
I have no interest in declaring my carry status. Further, if EVERY concealed handgun carrier wore their empty holster on the same day, it might have the opposite effect you're thinking. Specifically, many sheep don't even think about guns, and just as many don't want to know. If, all of a sudden, there were holsters on ten people in a grocery store, you might get the non-carrying public to vote out of fear and misinformation.
Just a thought.
A man in the hands of his enemies is flesh, and shudderingly vulnerable. - author unknown
February 18th, 2008 08:35 AM
I like the principle behind you idea, but I agree with others, that concealed is concealed, and I don’t want anyone to know I usually carry.
And the only places we can not carry in Florida are Bars, that don’t’ sell food, and some Governmental buildings and all schools. So it’s really not an issue here.
February 18th, 2008 09:40 AM
Thanks for thinking "outside the box". It would be great to start some sort of strategy like this. Obviously some folks feel apprehensive about advertising their carry status and I respect that.
Originally Posted by archer51
How about this idea? When you go to those places that you can't cc, then carry an adhesive sticker or card that says, "I'm a good customer and good citizen. I've passed the state requirements to carry a concealed weapon to protect myself and my family. Your sign at the entrance causes me to disarm which jeopardizes my safety on entering. You should know that your sign will not deter an armed criminal from entering your business. In fact it can actually encourage and attract a criminal to come in here since the criminal knows everyone is disarmed but him. Your sign will cause the lives of your customers and employees to be totally at the mercy of the armed criminal. Consider amending your sign to allow citizens who have valid concealed carry permits to enter."
I believe I'll make up some of these on my computer using card stock for paper. If I have to go in some place that has a gun-free sign, I'll leave them some of my cards. I could stick one on their entry sign, leave one on the bathroom mirror, leave one at the table in the restaurant, or give one to the manager, or whatever seems to work at the time.
February 18th, 2008 01:29 PM
I agree with the 'empty holster' ideal, but the ccw community tends to leans towards secrecy....but that is also the reason we have problem getting legislation passed, nobody knows who are you...In my community, I really would prefer not to have everyone know I carry....being a ccw instructor doesn't help that.
The students with the empty holster campaign is a genius way to show they support CCW on campus...but in the 'real' world, it be just cause problems, and give up too much vital information regarding our choice to be safe.
--people ask why I carry, and I show them this picture. I think it says it all.--
NRA Certified Instructor--many disciplines
February 18th, 2008 02:26 PM
I agree with those who say no, with one exception. I'm all for the student protesters who are collectively trying to accomplish something.
February 18th, 2008 03:45 PM
I agree 100%. I'm only going to be doing this on campus.
Originally Posted by snowdoctor
February 18th, 2008 04:50 PM
I don't join SCCC (students for concnealed carry on campus) b/c of the empty holster protests. Concealed means concealed which means I don't want my classmates potentially responding to me differently because they know I carry. If i wanted that i'd open carry. I'm all for CC on campus, and I wish it would become leagl at my University before me and my classmates get shot up. I go to one of the largest colleges in the world, and at the rate school shootings are happening and the way the law of averages works, its only a matter of time. Bummer.
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