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Making sure your gun is secure at all times.

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    Bet ya it was a Glock to ... Someone had to say it :)


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    I think this guy needs a good holster and some practice using it with a unloaded firearm while answering that call of nature.
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    Bump Fire ~ I Guess.

    I sure would like to know & maybe see a "video in slow motion" of exactly how this guy "caught" that pistol that "flopped out" & fell from a seated position w/ the muzzle facing outward and upward enough to graze the leg of the guy in the next stall during a lightning fast mid air catch from 3' above the floor.
    Maybe there is just not something that I'm not understanding 100% here. I'm not sure I want to know too many more details.
    Stranger things (for sure) have happened but, that is pretty strange. I'll bet it scared the $h1t right out of him.
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    I'm with QK. I'm skeptical about the version of events. Must have been appendix carry and he fumbled it some. I would have to see how high the holes in the door were and the angles etc.

    It could have been a Springfield XD or S&W Sigma, you Glock haters.

    Would a DAO have helped this situation I wonder. I would think it may have prevented round #2 at least.

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    I'm with QKS too. I know there are accidents, but some kinda make you wonder. Also, how many people want to admit they did something unwise that resulted in a UD (unintentional discharge), so maybe they embellish the story a bit?

    A gun in good working order should not fire if it is dropped. Except for 1911s and a very few others, all have firing pin blocks that block the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. I think there's a clue there. Plus a 1911 would require the grip safety to be pressed, the thumb safety released, and the trigger pulled. And some think C&L is unsafe. Maybe that should read how could anyone thing carrying a 1911 C&L'd is unsafe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White
    Bet ya it was a Glock to ... Someone had to say it :)
    Could have been. Those darn Glocks are known to go off every time that trigger gets pulled. Something needs to be done about that.
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    I still have never figured out trying to catch it sure ive dropped one maybe 2 but ive never tried to grab on espically the glock

    let it hit they ground pick it up like nothing happend and proceed on your way if in a public area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White
    I still have never figured out trying to catch it sure ive dropped one maybe 2 but ive never tried to grab on espically the glock

    let it hit they ground pick it up like nothing happend and proceed on your way if in a public area
    Bud,
    I like it! Sometimes the appearance of "that's perfectly ok" is the most disarming reaction to take. Many times people react more to our reactions than to the action itself. I think you're on to something here - be calm, act normal and go on - no big deal.

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    Wink Don't knock the Glocks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White
    Bet ya it was a Glock to ... Someone had to say it :)
    Hey, at least they're dishwasher safe! Seriously Glocks were designed specifically NOT to discharge in a drop situation. I have never heard of a Glock going off unintentionally in such circumstances. In fact, overall, given the advances in technology designed to prevent such occurrences, I'd say go ahead and let it drop. My guess isthat most folks who try this are not thinking with safety in mind, but rather to keep from being very embarrassed.

    Trust me on this, BTDT in a social event with the mayor and police chief present. I was sitting down to dinner in my tux with my wife's charity group at this function and the Officer's Model 45 I wore in a yaqui slide holster neatly settled onto the arm of the chair and smoothly slid up and out of my holster, hitting the hardwood floor with a LOUD THUNK!!! Everybody in the room turned to stare and nobody said anything as I calmly reholstered and continued to eat.

    Nobody said a word to me the whole evening beyond chit chat but when we got up to leave a bit early (tired wife) about 25 couples stood up and left too. Wouldn't you know it, they all asked if I'd be so kind as to escort them thru the DARK parking garage! I handed out a lot of business cards that night for the Florida Concealed Weapons Permit for my class. My poor wife had to wait in the security office (guards were unarmed) while I wore out my DAWGS walking all over creation. So I well know the embarrassment when you drop the piece. BTW, I've never used a Yaqui slide holster again.

    I think that given modern advances in safety systems, a dropped weapon would be fine. Euc would probably know this, but I'm pretty sure that most revolvers made in the last ten years have a built in passive safety system like a transfer bar to preclude an accidental discharge. Autos have similar devices, like the half cock mechanism or the safety in the trigger (Like the Glock) or the hammer drops. I have total confidence in my Sig, too.

    You know my favorite 007 movie? THUNDERBALL from the 1960's with Sean Connery. My FAV scene in that movie has 007 skulking around the grounds of the BGs home in Nassau and he gets them after him after he drops his PPK from a rooftop and it goes off. The fight is on and of course Bond gets away. But if the PPK went off so easily, it's a wonder it never went off each time 007 used it to clobber a BG unconscious!
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    ExSoldier762,

    I think the "dropped discharge" issue is with trying to catch a dropped gun rather than the gun discharging from impact. In the catching attempt, if that's really what happened, clearly the catch process involved a finger winding up on the trigger and discharging the gun via the trigger. Although, their story may be, "I just dropped it and it went off".

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    Yes they admitted that was what happened....
    Quote Originally Posted by XD9
    Officer Clancy tried to catch it, but accidentally fired two bullets when his finger grabbed the trigger by mistake.
    Not the gun's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier762
    BTW, I've never used a Yaqui slide holster again.
    That's why i don't use them. I've heard several stories of people losing thier weapons when they sat down while wearing Yaqui holsters.
    Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1

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    JT,
    Exactly right about the admitted drop. I've also read of accounts though, where the gun purportedly went off because it was dropped. We all know that's highly unlikely.

    I have used Yaquis for a short interim until I could get something else. Not only do they not provide adequate retention, the muzzle of the gun rubs the pants, etc. which would probably be abrasive to the finish and if any oil seeps out of the gun or it has powder residue on the muzzle from shooting, it could ruin some perfectly good pants.

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    I work with edged weapons a lot. So, If I loose my grip on one, I yank my hands back and jump back so it doesn't penetrate my foot.

    However, I'm sure I'd react differently if my $550.00 hand gun was about to hit the pavement.

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    Call Of Nature

    I don't like the way my firearms flop around when nature calls,so I always remove them from the holster and place in a secure position. BTW I use a Yaqui slide quite abit. But I'm looking into getting some good IWB holsters soon and give them a try. And sholder holsters don't give you those problems.

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