I'm still a little too sketched on looking like I'm carrying to wear a "tactical" vest, but around here nobody looks twice at anything that says Carhartt on it.
This is a discussion on Shoot Me Vest Issue resolved IMHO within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Thumper I like what Massad Ayoob says on the subject... "After all these years, I've only found one case of anyone "getting ...
Every time that I see someone at the grocery store with a "photographers vest" on, I smile... They just screamed gun at me and no one else.
I run into the same sheep all the time.....& without fail the only ones that say anything about my vest ask me if I'm going fishing or where did I get it, they need a good fishing vest.
The people I see regularly are used to wearing vests & if I'm not wearing one...they ask me where my vest is?????
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Isn't fishing with a gun dangerous?
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Oh.....That's what Obama meant about fishing?
Guess he's more observant than we all thought, eh?
"...........And so I respect the right of lawful gun owners to hunt, fish, protect their families."
Personally, I think they look a little goofy when not on a Trout stream...just my .02.......
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I find that most sheep won't even see you as you walk by. They are way to involved in their cellphone, blackberry, laptop, or simply themselves to hardly ever notice a vest. I think we all call that contition "White". If you don't believe this find a seat at the local mall and see all those who walk by that will never make eye contact with you or ever look your way.
We had a guy walk into our church several time in August, in Texas wearing a black duster type coat, only our security team (including Reborn) and myself ever saw him. ... Nuff said!
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I don't wear a "shooter's vest" per se. They are a little to "tacticool" for my tastes. I do have a couple of Columbia fleece vests that I wear that offer good concealment during the colder months.
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"You are going fishing today?
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I honestly don't think that the average person (criminals included) is even going to know what a Shoot Me First vest is for. I sure as hell didn't, before I started carrying.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil...
I don't understand the debate. You're right, the average person won't ever notice the vest, or will simply think you're a loser for wearing one. Nothing to worry about there. But unlike some, I agree that the sheeple aren't the people to worry about.
If you honestly believe that bad guys don't know as much about the "gun culture" as the good guys, I have some swamp land you may be interested in. I'll promise you that not everyone reading this forum is someone I'd want to know I was carrying a gun. The people buying American Handgunner include a wide range of people, not all of which are looking for the newest gun for IDPA competitions.
Even if there is only one bad guy that has ever heard of a shoot me first vest, that is one too many in my mind. Yes, they work- they hide the gun from view. But, so do countless other things that don't point an arrow at you to anyone. I'm pretty confident that if you all saw me on the street you'd never dream I had a gun (or two) on my person. If you all knew, the bad guys would know-- and I don't want to do anything that could make me a target to anyone.
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I don't own a vest, though I've thought about buying one.
I used to have a HUGE fanny pack, big enough to conceal a full-size 1911....until the 80's called and demanded its immediate return...
I'm not necessarily convinced that the prospect of a BG recognizing the significance of concealment gear is NECESSARILY a bad thing. When you think about it, if they believe you to be armed, intimidating you goes right out the window as an option, leaving them with only two others:
1. Attack you, an armed adversary, from ambush
2. Look for a different victim
My personal theory is that most criminals, by definition, are too lazy to WORK for a living, and therefore are far more likely to favor option # 2.
...which is fine by me.
This is my old timber cruiser's vest I wore when I tromped around in the forest for a living. I only wear it for recreational hiking these days.
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Damn Cap, there's NOTHING about that vest that "screams gun"!
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
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