carry question

This is a discussion on carry question within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; i might have to go to louisiana next month and i will be carrying. my question is this... my hubby just got a new glock ...

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    carry question

    i might have to go to louisiana next month and i will be carrying. my question is this... my hubby just got a new glock 26 that i will probably take with me in addition to my 649. the glock is his and i was wondering if it would be a big hassle/legal problem if i was stopped while carrying his gun too? we both have ccw's and we are married. just don't want to have to explain to him about his gun if something happens. he just bought it yesterday.

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    best to find a link to those states laws. In my sytate only the owner of the pistol may be in possesion. (no lending of pistols allowed)

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    Are you kidding? You're a female with a CCW carrying a pistol into a disaster zone. Cops will be RELIEVED you're not going to be another one of their crime victims and will never hassle you. You only have to worry about stuff like that if you run into the police or guard forces that will be "helping out" in the zone and hail from anti-gun areas. Still, even then, they should be escorted by NO assets. No, don't worry a bit as long as your state has full reciprocity agreements in place and that pretty much describes the entire southern region. I've been a southerner my whole life. Trust me on this one. You'll be fine. Just keep the Glock fully loaded, topped off and accessible. And concealed.
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    packing.org lists the states and their laws and reciprocities
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    Be careful, some states register a gun to a particular owner. IIRC you'll be bound by the law of the state you're in... so you need to check both your home state, any you'll be traveling thru, and LA.

    I certainly can understand why you'd want more than a snubie if you're headed "in country".
    (Never thought I's use that term for an area in CONUS.)
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    Thumbs up Louisiana / Florida A~OK

    BTW (according to packing.org) The State Of Louisiana has reciprocity with The State Of Florida. Both states DO honor each others License To Carry Firearms.
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    Must inform Law Enforcement when Carrying
    Date updated: Aug 12, 2005 @ 9:09 pm
    RS 40:1379.3.I.2
    >A permittee armed with a handgun in accordance with this Section shall notify any police officer who approaches the permittee in an official manner or with an identified official purpose that he has a weapon on his person, submit to a pat down, and allow the officer to temporarily disarm him.<

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    additional info:

    Louisiana State Constitution Article I Sec 11

    Right to Keep and Bear Arms

    The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person

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    Car/Gun law summary
    Date updated: Jul 29, 2005 @ 12:56 pm

    A user called the Louisiana State Police and was told state law considers your car an extension of the home, similar to Florida with their glove box law. Carrying a loaded gun in the car is an accepted practice there.

    In an email from the Louisiana State Police I was told that Louisiana has no law covering firearms inside motor vehicles. Since there is no law anyone who can legally possess a firearm can carry a loaded firearm inside a vehicle. It can be the glove box, console or under the seat. Even without any laws covering firearms inside vehicles I would still be very careful without a Louisiana CCW or one they honor from another state.

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    LRS 14:95.2 (C) (5)

    Implies that a firearm contained entirely within a motor vehicle is in a constitutionally protected area and cannot be regulated by the state. Our State Constitution only specifically gives the Legislature the power to regulate the concealed carry of weapons. (So anyone can carry a loaded firearm inside a motor vehicle in LA.

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    Restricted Firearm Areas/locations
    Places off-limits while carrying
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    >A law enforcement office, station, or building;
    >A detention facility, prison, or jail;
    >A courthouse or courtroom, provided that a judge
    may carry such a weapon in his own courtroom;
    >A polling place;
    >A meeting place of the governing authority of a
    political subdivision;
    >The State capitol building;
    >Any portion of an airport facility where the
    carrying of firearms is prohibited under federal law, except
    that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal
    firearm into the terminal, if the firearm is encased for
    shipment, for the purpose of checking such firearm as lawful
    baggage;
    >Any church, synagogue, mosque or similar place
    of worship;
    >A parade or demonstration for which a permit is
    issued by a governmental entity;
    >Any portion of the permitted area of an
    establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail
    permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of
    Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of
    1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the
    premises.

    Any school "firearm free zone" as
    defined in R.S. 14:95.6. Additionally, property
    owners, lessees, or other lawful custodians have the right
    to prohibit or restrict access of permittees possessing a
    concealed handgun.

    Furthermore, a permittee may not carry a
    concealed handgun into the private residence of another
    without first receiving the consent of that person.

    Additionally, the blood alcohol reading of the permittee
    must not exceed .05% or greater by weight of alcohol in the
    blood.

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    thanks for the replies. my employer does not allow me to carry at work but i told them up front that i WILL have one if i have to go to Louisiana. i will be sw of N.O. they told me that the worst case scenario would be that i get fired if i have to pull my gun while there. does federal law not over ride any employer? they say i am sane enough ( boy did they miss something lol), not a felon, and know how to handle a loaded firearm.

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    Is it just me, or is this self contradicting:

    "The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person"

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    Hmmm... Federal law doesn't override an employer, usually because owners of private property are allowed to prohibit weapons on their property... ie: place of business. It's actually written into most state laws... and it makes sense. If you owned property of any kind you would want the right to tell people what they could and couldn't do there.

    Now, if you're working for an employer off-site, I don't see how they could prohibit carry. What if you telecommuted from home, would you have to put all your guns in a safe while you did work for the company, and then take them out again when you were finished?

    The only way to find out, unless somebody can find some case law, is a lawsuit after you get fired. If there was a lawyer in the house who wanted to work pro-bono they might help you file for an injunction against your emplyer's policy as it applies OFF-SITE... but why stir up a bee's nest and perhaps cause hard feelings if you don't have to do it? Better off carrying quietly and hoping nothing happens, which it probably won't.

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    thanks for the replies. my employer does not allow me to carry at work but i told them up front that i WILL have one if i have to go to Louisiana. i will be sw of N.O. they told me that the worst case scenario would be that i get fired if i have to pull my gun while there. does federal law not over ride any employer? they say i am sane enough ( boy did they miss something lol), not a felon, and know how to handle a loaded firearm.
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    Welcome Cin

    AFAIK, here in PA anyways - a spouse can have their partner's gun without any problem - sorta ''shared'' ownership.

    Still best tho to bone up on state law stuff, tho QK has done a great job with what he had in his post.
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    i am going to go to packing.org to read up on louisiana law. i think my boss knows i carry even at work ( in my purse) and honestly i think he understands why and agrees.(crazy ex husband that likes to beat women. and yes i have all the no contact orders) its his bosses that have a problem. i told them up front if i go i would be armed and if they had a problem they needed to find someone else to go. they asked a couple of people but thats it. so off i go to research.

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    Cin:

    I just pulled up both the Florida and its link to the Louisiana site. Yup, Florida and La reciprocate. Carry and be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanksoldier
    Now, if you're working for an employer off-site, I don't see how they could prohibit carry. What if you telecommuted from home, would you have to put all your guns in a safe while you did work for the company, and then take them out again when you were finished?
    Actually, depending on the company and their regulations, they can. It would be a stretch for them to do it and they would have to catch you doing it which it is kind of improbable.

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    "Having unauthorized firearms or other weapons on (Company Name Deleted)'s premises or while on (Company Name Deleted)'s business."
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    Employers may prohibit employees from carrying dangerous weapons while in company owned buildings or working within the scope of their job. Behind this policy, you will generally find an insurance issue. Some companies have fired employes for having guns in their personal vehicles on company parking lots, but those cases are being fought in court. Bottom line: the company's insurance carrier doesn't want them to be sued in civil court by the heirs of a BG you shot. The result is that companies don't feel their employee's lives are as important as their ledger. If you feel that you can replace your job if you have been fired because you had to preserve your life, then carry by all means, but keep that information on a "need to know" basis.
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    Gardner - ''but keep that information on a "need to know" basis.'' -

    I think the ''no need to know'' is the best! Concealed - is - concealed!
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