Death Threat at my place of employment - RANT

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    Death Threat at my place of employment - RANT

    I just got an interesting email from my boss at work. Since I was out sick yesterday from work (not feeling much better today) he emailed me today, and said that I missed an interesting day yesterday. Apparently there was a "Death Threat" to one of our divisions, and the place went into lock down and evacuation. (I work at a local government agency). Now because there is a no weapons rule in place it means that there is no way to stop a gunman that comes in.

    Even though it is a local government agency, I have NEVER seen a police office in the building. Security measures are non existent. We are all required to get employee ID badges, but there is NO rule requiring anybody to wear them. I don't think I have ever seen anyone wear an employee badge either... When someone dies from a malicious act at this location, I see a lawsuit coming.
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    Well there may be a no gun rule, but you could still put a grab bag of bearspray, knife, first aid etc by your workspace. Not as good as a gun but better than nothing. Also send a polite e-mail to the boss outlining your security oncerns, list instances where a firearm saved the day, lay out a plan where approved employees can CCW, indicate the licencing requirement, the stats on how many licence holders become a problem (less than 1% if I recall) and state your level of training and how you suggest that a level of training could be maintained. Also consider volunteeing to become the security coordinator and talk about how approving certain employees to CCW and build up the security plan will limit his liability.

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    Sounds like if you cant protect yourselves, they have some major security issues to tend to colin's idea seems like a good start....good luck
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    If they don't allow you to carry weapons, they should have security guards, restricted badge access doors, etc. Especially in a place that is receiving death threats. It's mind boggling that they won't protect you or allow you to protect yourself in situations like this.

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    The reality is I'm sure that most companies will have a no weapons policy, and most will have no real emergency procedures in place to protect its employees in the event of a b/g in the general area. As in another thread "The Church & Security" where the everyday member can arm themselves to protect their families, in the workplace we are pretty much left to hide and seek. As in your location ours also requires ID, but no one wears them. But with only 150 employees I know each and everyone by face and name. If someone appeared who was not expected or escorted it would be a different story. And you are right will it be only time before a law suit comes from one of these "No Weapons" killing fields.
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    How about one of these outside your office door?!



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    Went through the about same thing at the company I work for a while back. Threats were made towards some folks in management in an online, anonymous employee survey.

    Security there is pretty much non-existant as well. We have ID badges (I keep mine in my pocket, as do about half the folks there), and there is an electronic lock that we have to scan to open the door. There are so many people on first shift that I'd bet one in four folks actually have to scan their card to get in, the other three get the door held open for them.

    To take a "proactive" measure for safety, they brought in security. Unarmed security. And they reminded us of the no weapons policy. My superviser got first and third shift together for a meeting one morning and went on a big spill about how the comapny isnt taking our safety or those threats lightly, blah blah blah. Typical company drone BS.

    Paraphrased, I said:

    "Its just a feel good measure. The bigwigs are paying for security so they feel good about our safety, and stupid people feel safer becasue there's someone in uniform walking around. Someone without a gun. What good are they going to do if someone comes in here and goes postal?"

    He said something about the gurads being a deterrance, then I pointed one guard out and said "He is 60 years ald and weighs 275 lbs. He's got no gun, he doesnt even have any spray. The only advantage I see is that if someone comes through that door to go postal, they'll shoot him first and give the rest of us a chance to duck and cover."

    My boss wasn't happy. I kept expecting a closed-door meeting with him, and/or some higher-ups, especially since I'm the gun guy at work, but it never happened. I was kinda looking forward to it.

    Now security is only there from Friday night to Monday morning. The 60 year old, 275lb guard on graveyard shift is normally asleep in the front office. Still lacking any means of defense.

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    Exactly my point...."feel good measures". I wonder if in the high dollar brief cases the corner offices all carry there may be a little something more for their personal protection?
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