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Got very angry after the introduction...
Looked through the Table of Contents...
Didn't see CRIMINALS mentioned once...
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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I understand.I posted this so we can all see the garbage the anti's post.
Good grief, the copyright on this was 1997...where was it, in the bottom of some landfill....
"It's a big gun when I carry it, it is also a big gun when I take it out” – Clint Smith
The dumbest thing I have ever not read. If someone cannot understand or is unwilling to comprehend why we do what we do, it would be nice if they would just shut their piehole and mind their business. How come nobody ever writes 90 pages of butt wipe about the criminals who don't give a rats azz and may kill 2 or 3 innocent young people because he can't aim?
Tried to read it, shouldn't have. Headache now...what a bunch of crap.
I agree, gave me a headache reading that garbage. What little I did get through was so full of lies I could not stand it.
I could only read this for about a minute. The writer is so biased. But a couple sentences stood out:
What about the known bad character of crirminals who use guns? And do the criminals spend as much classroom time and range time learning their weapon as the average CCW holder?Given the uncertain character of and lack of training for CCW licensees, coupled with the pervasive problems of workplace violence, an increase in the number of guns on company property will likely increase the chances for gun violence.
The writer's priorities obviously differ from mine. I'm more concerned about people not dying.The foreseeability of that fact could lead to considerable damages if a gun injury were to occur. A gun incident can also balloon into a public- and employee relations disaster.
We are fighting enemies on two fronts: criminals, and idiots like this writer. Oh, and I forgot the legal system that lets criminals back out on the street too soon.
Having those pro-bono lawyers available, their next logical step would be to sue the manufacturers of those obviously defective "NO GUNS ALLOWED" signs. These signs have beeen sold signs to businesses and universities knowing full well that the signs would not work as intended.
"If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Place on Earth!" Ronald Reagan
ok, read enough. break out the tylenol. made some copyies for bathroom
(not reading materail) lol.
(SHERIFF BUFORD T. JUSTICE) "what the hell is
the world coming too"
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U.S. ARMY FT.SILL, OKLA.
I like this "legislation in numerous states in the past few years, thirty-one states now allow practically anyone to carry a concealed firearm with them wherever they go, including into stores and the places they work."
ALL States allow ANYONE to carry a firearm, plain and simple. There are NO laws that stop someone from carrying a firearm, its called crime.
I read some of it and it seems to me that they are more worried about legal liability than they are about employee's!
One of my favorite parts:
"Could you imagine having either customers or
employees drawing their loaded handguns and firing away? Of course not. Similarly, no
reasonable business person would want their employees to be armed on the job, even under
“normal” circumstances."(Page 39 Paragraph 4)
Of course not, because it wouldn't happen. And why would any reasonable business person want their employees to be able to defend themselves?
You are going to tell me that I cannot protect myself and in the same breath tell me that you are also not going to provide adequate protection for me???
· “[In my thirty-one years on the force, I have] never heard of a crime being stopped by
a civilian who had a concealed weapon.” James R. Otto, Police Captain, Richmond,
· “In my years of experience as a police officer, I cannot recall one single instance
where an innocent citizen armed with a firearm in a public place successfully
protected himself or herself from a criminal.” Dan Minteer, Detective, Overland
Park, Kansas.(Page 38)
I guess these guys never watch the news or talk to their officers.
What a giant steaming pile of horse manure.
Maybe this type of 'Anti-Rights' garbage should be
Ok... Sorry about that.
“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” Benjamin Franklin
I'm not pro gun, I'm pro rights. What are you?