Massachusetts is a pain in the rear end

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    Massachusetts is a pain in the rear end

    As some of you might know I am traveling to Maine this summer for vacation. I have applied for my Maine non-resident permit. I know I have to travel thru some pretty nasty anti-gun states along the way. NJ, NY, CT, and MA. I have collected a nice page to take a long of each states statutes and laws regarding transportation of a handgun, in addition to the federal interstate transporation law. Each state until MA is rather standard unloaded, ammo seperate and locked up in the trunk... not so in MA

    According to NRA-ILA:

    "Caution--Massachusetts has enacted one of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, imposing a mandatory one-year jail sentence for anyone illegally possessing a firearm, loaded or unloaded, "on his person or under his control in a vehicle." In all cases, all firearms must be transported as prescribed in the general rule"

    I don't not want to carry for a week while in ME just because I can't transport my gun thru the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts for one hour... this is ridiculous. Don't federal transportation laws protect me here? Someone help...

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    OK check with a Lawyer or Someone in Authority
    but

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro2A View Post

    standard unloaded, ammo separate and locked up in the trunk

    "on his person or under his control in a vehicle." In all cases, all firearms must be transported as prescribed in the general rule"
    If you do the first part
    (standard unloaded, ammo separate and locked up in the trunk)

    then its not on your person and not in your control

    So the MA Law is in line with the Federal Law
    & you can transport it through MA Legally

    thats just my $0.02

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    I am not sure where you are coming from to get to Maine, but I was just looking at a map. May take you a few extra hours, but can you go around? The state ain't that big.

    Also, as mentioned, if it is in the trunk, it is not on your person. I would carefully check the transportation regs and follow them to the letter. Then drive very, very, very, very, very carefully.
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    anyone illegally possessing a firearm

    As long as you are the legal owner of the firearm what's the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by exactlymypoint View Post
    I am not sure where you are coming from to get to Maine, but I was just looking at a map. May take you a few extra hours, but can you go around? The state ain't that big.

    Also, as mentioned, if it is in the trunk, it is not on your person. I would carefully check the transportation regs and follow them to the letter. Then drive very, very, very, very, very carefully.

    Going around would be too much out of our way... With two kids in the car we'd want to make haste getting there and not delay it any. I figure if we stop anywhere it'll be before we leave PA, once we get to CT, then again in NH. I plan to make haste thru NJ, NY and MA... goin around is out of the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagflyfish View Post
    anyone illegally possessing a firearm

    As long as you are the legal owner of the firearm what's the problem?
    I think I read it the wrong way... It really seemed to imply that having the gun even unloaded in the vehicle was bad juju.

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    NRA-ILA is reporting on the in-state laws. The Federal Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) supersedes state law for interstate transportation. Under FOPA, you may legally transport a firearm between states so long as you may legally possess the weapon at origin and destination; that the gun be unloaded and locked up separately from any ammunition (providing the state you are in dos not provide more for more generous arrangements); and provided you make only minimal stops (e.g., food and gas) in any such restrictive states.

    So, before you get to NJ, stop, disarm, unload, and lock up the gun. When you see Massachusetts in your rearview mirror, hit a rest area and rearm where it's legal. That's it.

    Here is the Wikipedia page for FOPA. The links at the bottom for ATF regs should take you to the actual law if you want to make certain. You want the "safe passage" provision. I would also expect NRA-ILA to have summary information on FOPA. Here, the section "FEDERAL LAW ON TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS ": NRA-ILA :: Federal Gun Laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffsmith View Post
    OK check with a Lawyer or Someone in Authority
    but

    If you do the first part
    (standard unloaded, ammo separate and locked up in the trunk)

    then its not on your person and not in your control

    So the MA Law is in line with the Federal Law
    & you can transport it through MA Legally

    The above is correct. I'm an LEO in Ma. You can transport firearms through Ma as long as it's unloaded and you keep the ammo separated from the firearm. The trunk is recommended along wit a locked container. You will have no problem with the above. Ma law is in line with Federal Law.
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    By the way a CT non-resident permit is fairly easy to obtain.
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    Is the Ma.law ok for hand guns and long guns?

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    FOPA is OK for both Handguns and Long Guns.

    MA law has nothing to do with what the OP needs to do.

    MA recognizes FOPA, so if you follow it to the letter you are good to go.

    Carry a copy with you OFF A FEDERAL WEBSITE (not Wikipedia or some 3rd party site) in the very remote chance that you need to prove a point . . . however they don't strip search vehicles in MA due to a tail-light being out or someone speeding, so nobody will be the wiser if you follow the law and don't volunteer info you don't have to.

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    Fed "transit" covers you in MA. Unloaded, locked in a case in the trunk and you are okay. Transit also covers hi-cap mags, even those not legal in MA.

    My 2c - if you do get stopped in MA, DO NOT DECLARE UNLESS THEY SPECIFICALLY ASK. And they wont.

    Been driving around MA, NH, PA, NY all week, cant wait to get my arse back to Maine tomorrow night.

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