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    Question This will probably get me in trouble, but the Wal-Mart thing...

    I've been watching the discussion about getting your permit, secreting your weapon on your person and going to Wal-Mart to buy nachos and ammo. Something just doesn't seem right to me, and it may be because of my experience with the Pistol Permit system in New York State.

    In NY you are not allowed to own a pistol until you acquire your permit. So the idea of someone buying a pistol for the first time, walking around Wal-Mart with it, without ever having fired it (buying ammo) seems to me a little dangerous. I have had a restricted permit since 1990 (hunting and target shooting), and am taking training courses, and am putting in weekly range time until I feel I'm qualified to use a firearm in self defense. I will then approach the county judge, armed with my newly acquired certificates and clean record asking him to remove the restrictions and allow me to carry concealed legally.

    Am I missing something about the "Wal-Mart experience"?
    -Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by cl00bie View Post
    Am I missing something about the "Wal-Mart experience"?
    Yes... In free states, you do not need a permit to purchase/own handguns. Most of the people in the Walmart threads have owned and shot their carry guns for months before getting their concealed carry permits.

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    In truly awesome states, like Alaska, a permit is not even required to conceal a handgun.

    Alaska is among the most gun friendly states in the country.

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    Tony - I was born and raised in NYC. I escaped six weeks after graduating from high school. What you are missing is how free almost every other state is as compared to NY. The "Empire" state's best days are well behind it and oppressive, liberty-restricting government is the primary cause.

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    I agree with American Pit Bull 100%. I've had my CCDW for less than a year, but I've used, owned, and carried all types of guns for nearly 2 decades. Here in KY my grand father actually used to carry his double barreled shotgun to school. He'd let his principal keep it in hos office and after school he'd go squirrel hunting. Gotta love the old days.
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    So, just wait until you can legally carry, conceal that heater and go to Wal-Mart. The idea is to go there to get over the "...everybody is watching me and they all know I have a gun..." jitters.

    It's a tongue-in-cheek right of passage....enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasomers View Post
    In truly awesome states, like Alaska, a permit is not even required to conceal a handgun.

    Alaska is among the most gun friendly states in the country.
    Vermont is the same way. No permit required. Also, I haven't seen any "No guns allowed" signs on any of the business, and I've been looking. Of course, the post office, schools, and courthouses are off limits, but I haven't found any other place that I can't carry.

    The only problem with no permits is that there is nothing for other states to honor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Pit Bull View Post
    Yes... In free states, you do not need a permit to purchase/own handguns. Most of the people in the Walmart threads have owned and shot their carry guns for months before getting their concealed carry permits.
    Well, that explains it. Thanks.
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    We can open carry without a permit (kinda). It's hard for us (boy's from the wood's) to understand that city. We can keep a handgun in the car at 18. I was shooting and hunting as far back as I can remember.
    To many people, not enough trees!! Good luck with your permit
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    Quote Originally Posted by cl00bie View Post

    Am I missing something about the "Wal-Mart experience"?
    Timing!

    The "rules" are VERY flexible, we make them up as we go.
    ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cl00bie View Post
    I've been watching the discussion about getting your permit, secreting your weapon on your person and going to Wal-Mart to buy nachos and ammo. Something just doesn't seem right to me, and it may be because of my experience with the Pistol Permit system in New York State.

    In NY you are not allowed to own a pistol until you acquire your permit. So the idea of someone buying a pistol for the first time, walking around Wal-Mart with it, without ever having fired it (buying ammo) seems to me a little dangerous. I have had a restricted permit since 1990 (hunting and target shooting), and am taking training courses, and am putting in weekly range time until I feel I'm qualified to use a firearm in self defense. I will then approach the county judge, armed with my newly acquired certificates and clean record asking him to remove the restrictions and allow me to carry concealed legally.

    Am I missing something about the "Wal-Mart experience"?
    GO WEST YOUNG MAN BUT STOP BEFORE YA HIT CALIFORNIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    GO WEST YOUNG MAN BUT STOP BEFORE YA HIT CALIFORNIA
    I can vouch for the 2nd part, its not a ton better here.
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    I have literally been shooting all my life. I couldn't have a permit to carry concealed until I was 21, but when I got the permit, my pistol felt right at home on my hip.
    do what you can with what you have where you are at (theodore roosevelt)

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    Hi Tony,
    I know what you mean that it seems hard to believe because I too escaped from NY. But what seems hard for me to believe now is that I was actually duped by Socialist States (if you don't know which ones they are you may live in one) into thinking that gun ownership by law-abiding citizens is abnormal. That society would crumble if the average joe on the street (however responsible) were allowed to own a gun. Fact is countless of responsible Americans own guns legally without having a conceal carry permit. Countless others have the right to open carry. Others like myself included choose to acquire their CCW.
    Said people have not been shooting each other in the streets. In fact where citizens have been allowed to exercise their 2nd. amendment rights crime rates has gone down. No doubt you already know this because you are evidently a responsible gun owner who stays informed thru this and other means. It's just a shame that so many other oppressed citizens are so misinformed. I hope you persevere and get all restrictions lifted on your permit. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    GO WEST YOUNG MAN BUT STOP BEFORE YA HIT CALIFORNIA
    Or just keep going until you hit the great state of Alaska...

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